Steven Slate 2.0: Signature Drumkits.. Drum MODELING??

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Nice stuff, i have been thinking of buying some pre-.gog'ed drum sounds as it gets alot of use and the included content whilst not bad at all is not a patch on this one. Even better i use kontakt myself also at home alot so having both and the .wav's (ableton drumracks, battery kits..yeah) good work S.Slate - i reckon im pretty much sold, although it will have to wait for a while as i have more immediate needs to cover (ie: buy) but this one is on the shopping list for sure (and my shopping list is never very big/OTT/Unrealistic)

Cheers Brent, i would not have stumbled upon this one if it weren't for you my friend. Per told me you and he had a good time at NAMM (he is a very decent bloke, a diamond geezer). Take it easy Brent and i will catch you again sometime and have been enjoying the recent ProRec like usual mate, good work

All the best to you from over in the UK man

Dean

[koolkeys]

Right and left hand hits may sound different in real life. However, in a sample library, it just doesn't work the same.

As interesting as this interchange is, and although I still disagree with the above opinion, I think you are missing the main point of my original comment.
I WANT separate left and right samples in my drum libraries.

It doesn't matter what the handle that flushes your toilet is made out of, it still flushes the toilet. But if you WANT a gold plated titanium handle, you are unlikely to purchase a rubber one, despite the vendor's insistance that it will do exactly the same job.

Your views on separate left and right hand hits take the agnostic approach, "Prove it to me and I will believe it!", whereas mine are those of the faithful "I believe it to be so!". However neither are relevant to the underlying point I have reiterated, which is that I would favour a product that gives me what I WANT, over one that doesn't.

I think we simply have to agree to differ on this one

I'm ok with agreeing to disagree. I will say, however, that my view isn't that there are two ways of doing the same thing, so I choose one. I just personally feel that it's more efficient to spend the sampling time and hard drive space on other things.

In the end, if it sounds like you want, it really doesn't matter how you got there. So we can both be correct on this one! It's more about the music than the technology behind it anyways!

Brent

[koolkeys]

Nice stuff, i have been thinking of buying some pre-.gog'ed drum sounds as it gets alot of use and the included content whilst not bad at all is not a patch on this one. Even better i use kontakt myself also at home alot so having both and the .wav's (ableton drumracks, battery kits..yeah) good work S.Slate - i reckon im pretty much sold, although it will have to wait for a while as i have more immediate needs to cover (ie: buy) but this one is on the shopping list for sure (and my shopping list is never very big/OTT/Unrealistic)

Cheers Brent, i would not have stumbled upon this one if it weren't for you my friend. Per told me you and he had a good time at NAMM (he is a very decent bloke, a diamond geezer). Take it easy Brent and i will catch you again sometime and have been enjoying the recent ProRec like usual mate, good work

All the best to you from over in the UK man

Dean

Thanks for the kind words man! And I'm glad to help. I became a fan a while back of Steven's work. And it's only gotten better. Hearing these drums played by good drummers on a V-Drum set this past week was just a great experience. And hey, the SSD booth had girls in maid's outfits, so why not hang out, right?

Anyways, I am glad you like the site and hopefully you'll keep visiting as we are adding more writers, restructuring everything, and ramping up the community over the next few months. So much is in the works, but we're just a little behind. Let me know if you have anything you want to see!

Back to the drums though, you'll be happy with them. And the new NRG room recordings are great from what I heard. NAMM was noisy(with some Barry Manilow wannabee guy playing piano and singing in the booth across from SSD), so I couldn't get the greatest impression of the room sound. But what I did hear was great. And it will be much better organized since it now uses the Kontakt Player.

We'll be reviewing the new kits sometime soon hopefully.

Brent

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Barry Manillo wanna be, girls in maids outfit's! Only at NAMM lol, you didn't happen to swing by either Jackson, BC Rich or Dean Guitars booth's did you? you always get a good eyeful their Brent i can assure you! - Jenna Jameson posing in nothing much with a Randy Rhoads signature axe is a wonderful treat on the eyes mate (drools) If you didn't then maybe swing by any or all of em next time round

Anyway StevenSlateDrums 2.0: i will keep my eyes out for the review on ProRec mate, to be honest i can't think of anything i would really like to see as many of the articles are sort of a nice surprise IMHO, i really enjoy the Microphone orientated write ups as i am an engineer myself and all the other stuff is great for me as a musician when working at home with my fairly modest home studio type setup too: so it works for me on both levels man. I can't say fairer than that

If i think of something though i sure will let you know my friend

Dean

[koolkeys]

Barry Manillo wanna be, girls in maids outfit's! Only at NAMM lol, you didn't happen to swing by either Jackson, BC Rich or Dean Guitars booth's did you? you always get a good eyeful their Brent i can assure you! - Jenna Jameson posing in nothing much with a Randy Rhoads signature axe is a wonderful treat on the eyes mate (drools) If you didn't then maybe swing by any or all of em next time round

Anyway StevenSlateDrums 2.0: i will keep my eyes out for the review on ProRec mate, to be honest i can't think of anything i would really like to see as many of the articles are sort of a nice surprise IMHO, i really enjoy the Microphone orientated write ups as i am an engineer myself and all the other stuff is great for me as a musician when working at home with my fairly modest home studio type setup too: so it works for me on both levels man. I can't say fairer than that

If i think of something though i sure will let you know my friend

Dean

I didn't necessarily stop by most of the instrument booths since I was there to cover the audio side of things, but I did pass by many of them. Let me say, anyone who thinks that NAMM is for guys mostly, hasn't been there! The place is LOADED with wonderful looking girls, many times dressed in outfits just asking you to gaze. It's a great people-watching experience, no doubt. Of course, there are several not-so-hot bods around as well!

Brent

[musictronics]

In the end, if it sounds like you want, it really doesn't matter how you got there. >> It's more about the music than the technology behind it anyways!

Amen Brother Brent!

BTW - I checked out the ProRec site, very informative, very cool.
I'll be signing up...

Back on topic, I checked out the drum demos on Steven Slate's site, and to be honest I don't see the library ever finding a place in my collection. I'm sure it is a very fine product, but not one I would find useful. You mentioned a pet hate in a previous post, mine is pre-processed drum sounds! Nonetheless, I'm sure that there will be an enormous market for it

[koolkeys]

In the end, if it sounds like you want, it really doesn't matter how you got there. >> It's more about the music than the technology behind it anyways!

Amen Brother Brent!

BTW - I checked out the ProRec site, very informative, very cool.
I'll be signing up...

Back on topic, I checked out the drum demos on Steven Slate's site, and to be honest I don't see the library ever finding a place in my collection. I'm sure it is a very fine product, but not one I would find useful. You mentioned a pet hate in a previous post, mine is pre-processed drum sounds! Nonetheless, I'm sure that there will be an enormous market for it

Well, processed in this case is just EQ and compression. It's not for everyone. But these libraries are designed to get "that" sound. When somebody says "How do I sound like .......", this library is the answer. EZ Drummer is a similar product. They are made this way because many people don't have access to the high end gear and don't have the large wealth of knowledge that those like Steven have. So he made these libraries to give people access to that top 40 rock sound from one of the best.

I also own BFD2 which is the opposite, so if I need something custom, I can. But just so it's clear, the Steven Slate drums offer dry samples as well as ones recorded in high quality rooms like the NRG room in L.A.

So not for everyone, and I do use other samples. But this library hits the sound I need PERFECTLY. So might as well save the work that I would have done! They won't be the best jazz drums either, of course. But that's why it's great there are so many drum products out there. It's just like pianos. You really can't have enough of them.

Thanks for the comments on ProRec.com as well. As I said above, let me know your thoughts or what you want to see. Lots to come!

Brent

[Slate]

Hey guys, I just want to clear the air here. If you have been to my site, you have seen and heard our version 2.0 software.

Our version 3.0 software is a whole other animal.

New drumkits, NEW VELOCITY LAYERING (for the most realistic playability), new SSD VIRTUAL INSTRUMENT, New Paiste Cymbal Pack, new NRG ROOM mics, new Groove pack... new Steely Dan signature model..

In all, we have over 40 drumkits in Virtual Instrument (RTAS, AU, VST) which have support for EVERY Vdrum unit for the Roland TD-3 to TD-20, and Drumagog GOGS and raw Wavs. We have tons of authentically modelled kits from Led Zepellin to Nirvana to Metallica..

The new 3.0 site launches this week.

Until then, get about two hours to spare, and listen to our new audio demos here:

www.stevenslatedrums.com/scott

and videos here:

www.slatestudios.com/david

More soon in a new SSD 3.0 Thread. But all I can say is, if you own a studio, this will be a very useful product for you.

Great to see you at the booth Brent!

Steven

[koolkeys]

You too man! And the eye candy was pretty cool as well! I'm looking forward to the new version. I'm already a believer though, so that's probably a given.

Brent

[PaulG]

Steve,

Have you decided on an upgrade path for us 2.0 owners yet?

Just curious...and baiting, of course.

Thanks, either way,

- Paul

[Slate]

Hey Paul, the 2.0 to 3.0 upgrade is only $60... you'll find it on the new UPGRADE link on the new 3.0 website, due out THURSDAY

[DocAtlas]

Well, processed in this case is just EQ and compression. It's not for everyone. But these libraries are designed to get "that" sound. When somebody says "How do I sound like .......", this library is the answer. EZ Drummer is a similar product. They are made this way because many people don't have access to the high end gear and don't have the large wealth of knowledge that those like Steven have. So he made these libraries to give people access to that top 40 rock sound from one of the best.

I also own BFD2 which is the opposite, so if I need something custom, I can. But just so it's clear, the Steven Slate drums offer dry samples as well as ones recorded in high quality rooms like the NRG room in L.A.

Brent

What I'm looking forward to is the BFD version of SSD. That should give us the best of both worlds.

[koolkeys]

Well, processed in this case is just EQ and compression. It's not for everyone. But these libraries are designed to get "that" sound. When somebody says "How do I sound like .......", this library is the answer. EZ Drummer is a similar product. They are made this way because many people don't have access to the high end gear and don't have the large wealth of knowledge that those like Steven have. So he made these libraries to give people access to that top 40 rock sound from one of the best.

I also own BFD2 which is the opposite, so if I need something custom, I can. But just so it's clear, the Steven Slate drums offer dry samples as well as ones recorded in high quality rooms like the NRG room in L.A.

Brent

What I'm looking forward to is the BFD version of SSD. That should give us the best of both worlds.

I am looking forward to that as well. But when it comes to the library itself, Steven says they will be exactly the same in terms of samples. Obviously, you get the cool BFD2 routing and effects. But Kontakt is a pretty full package as well for those things. I use Kontakt and BFD2, so either one is good for me.

Brent

[Slate]

Our SSD Player is powered by the Kontakt 2 Player. Let me make a few things clear:

- SSD 3.0 ships WITH the K Player
- Our K Player is custom coded with our features and is very easy to use, has built in effects, and has mappings for keyboard and Vdrums. One of our keyboard mappings is pre routed to discrete outputs in your DAW.

Our BFD2 version is under way and we are finalizing it this month. For people who already own BFD2, this is a great option.

screenshot of our SSD instrument:
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[paveloso]

Hey Paul, the 2.0 to 3.0 upgrade is only $60... you'll find it on the new UPGRADE link on the new 3.0 website, due out THURSDAY

Cool! At what time?

EDIT
OK, found it! Just one question: What would be my "DAFS #"? Pls do excuse my ignorance!