Basic theory problem that it seems to be overlook
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Ok, now that we covered the harmonical and melodical bases, can we probably proceed to rhythmic stuff?
I'd be most interested in the OP's polyrhythmic art.
Thanks
Sascha
I'd be most interested in the OP's polyrhythmic art.
Thanks
Sascha
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRAF
- 2844 posts since 1 Jan, 2003
Earlier you wrote:
Later you wrote:jc21161 wrote:I don't seem to be able to remember too much in my head on music theory
You were telling the truth the first time.jc21161 wrote:Anybody that knows anything at all about music theory would not even need to reference back to a theory book
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- KVRAF
- 2844 posts since 1 Jan, 2003
I missed that one. I think I'm lucky.jancivil wrote:anybody remember the guy on here who never got that "0 cycles per second" meant that it didn't sound?
Remember that guy who used to be at (got banned from) most of the computer audio forums who constantly raved about Soundblaster cards? He once went on and on about the myth of 44,100 samples per second. He said he looked carefully at his speakers and he knew for a fact they weren't moving in and out that fast.
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
GottaCordelia wrote: He said he looked carefully at his speakers and he knew for a fact they weren't moving in and out that fast.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I swear I thought you were in on that joke, Cordelia. He claimed he could hear from 0hz-20khz due I guess to some chemical assistance. He got banned in like one day. He had some elaborate 'theory' which in his mind was like a unified field, and he had made a chart to prove it.Cordelia wrote:I missed that one. I think I'm lucky.jancivil wrote:anybody remember the guy on here who never got that "0 cycles per second" meant that it didn't sound?
Remember that guy who used to be at (got banned from) most of the computer audio forums who constantly raved about Soundblaster cards? He once went on and on about the myth of 44,100 samples per second. He said he looked carefully at his speakers and he knew for a fact they weren't moving in and out that fast.
This kinda thing is as good as TV in my book.
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- KVRAF
- 2844 posts since 1 Jan, 2003
Oh yeah, it's coming back to me now.jancivil wrote:I swear I thought you were in on that joke, Cordelia. He claimed he could hear from 0hz-20khz due I guess to some chemical assistance. He got banned in like one day. He had some elaborate 'theory' which in his mind was like a unified field, and he had made a chart to prove it.Cordelia wrote:I missed that one. I think I'm lucky.jancivil wrote:anybody remember the guy on here who never got that "0 cycles per second" meant that it didn't sound?
Remember that guy who used to be at (got banned from) most of the computer audio forums who constantly raved about Soundblaster cards? He once went on and on about the myth of 44,100 samples per second. He said he looked carefully at his speakers and he knew for a fact they weren't moving in and out that fast.
This kinda thing is as good as TV in my book.
My memory is not what it used to be.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 48 posts since 29 Jan, 2008 from Washington State Sunnyside, USA
Okay people of the world, is it too much to ask for the basic artist colors? All other issues concerning songwriting can be found at any other topic.
I put forward sets of optimized chords to address the various issues of note and chord combinding. This works really good for those of us (like me) who like their options carved in stone. And maybe some of you may have ideas on chords on-the-fly schemes, optimized for the challenges of a particular song, for maybe a finer outcome? We do not need the answer of just playing random chords until you find some that sound good (as some of you have suggested) that information can be found at any chord book.
I'm not here claiming to be a music genius (like others are yelling they are) but more of an administrative capacity, trying to extract the genius (and sorting out the bull from the baloney.) If this were not so I would not have been asking such seemingly juvenile questions but on the other hand I have 30 plus years of previously mentioned experience to contribute as well.
I might mention that there are maybe thousands of people typing in their search engines things such as a "C PENTATONIC MINOR scale with chords" for an example, and they're pulling up everything your saying.
Thanks, OP
Quote: "You cannot belittle someone if there are already little."
I put forward sets of optimized chords to address the various issues of note and chord combinding. This works really good for those of us (like me) who like their options carved in stone. And maybe some of you may have ideas on chords on-the-fly schemes, optimized for the challenges of a particular song, for maybe a finer outcome? We do not need the answer of just playing random chords until you find some that sound good (as some of you have suggested) that information can be found at any chord book.
I'm not here claiming to be a music genius (like others are yelling they are) but more of an administrative capacity, trying to extract the genius (and sorting out the bull from the baloney.) If this were not so I would not have been asking such seemingly juvenile questions but on the other hand I have 30 plus years of previously mentioned experience to contribute as well.
I might mention that there are maybe thousands of people typing in their search engines things such as a "C PENTATONIC MINOR scale with chords" for an example, and they're pulling up everything your saying.
Thanks, OP
Quote: "You cannot belittle someone if there are already little."
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
jc21161 wrote:Okay people of the world, is it too much to ask for the basic artist colors?
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRian
- 829 posts since 9 Nov, 2008 from Pile of Shite
Now, who's doing that, exactly? Can you actually quote anybody doing that? It seems to me that you're the only one appearing to do that.jc21161 wrote:I'm not here claiming to be a music genius (like others are yelling they are)
Who's talking bull? Who's talking baloney? The consensus seems to be that it's you.jc21161 wrote:trying to extract the genius (and sorting out the bull from the baloney.)
The problem is not that you have been asking seemingly juvenile questions. The problem is that you have not been asking questions at all, but rather making a series of lengthy and nonsensical statements.jc21161 wrote:If this were not so I would not have been asking such seemingly juvenile questions
Maybe you do, but it doesn't really count for anything, I'm afraid, because your music sucks.jc21161 wrote:but on the other hand I have 30 plus years of previously mentioned experience to contribute as well.
You might, but I have no idea what it is you're trying to say.jc21161 wrote:I might mention that there are maybe thousands of people typing in their search engines things such as a "C PENTATONIC MINOR scale with chords" for an example, and they're pulling up everything your saying.
Building chords on a given scale is a simple matter, I think, and one which is very well covered (but feel free to ask questions). See Wikipedia, for example.
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Well, he actually *has* been asking questions, but as soon as someone cared to answer them, he came up with replies why it'd be all nonsense, such as MIDI being audio, such as the altered scale being "bebop minor" and what not.The Fex wrote:The problem is not that you have been asking seemingly juvenile questions. The problem is that you have not been asking questions at all, but rather making a series of lengthy and nonsensical statements.
And hmm, regarding the thread topic, I'm still asking myself which basic theory problem it is that "it seems to be overlook" (maybe the language is a problem as well, I already said so - at least it's quite rare at KVR that I see some posts from a native speaker that I don't seem to understand a single word of, but that might as well be a problem on my side).
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
IF pigment: Red, Yellow and Blue. If light, Magenta, Yellow and Cyan. Also, Black and White.jc21161 wrote:Okay people of the world, is it too much to ask for the basic artist colors? .
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 48 posts since 29 Jan, 2008 from Washington State Sunnyside, USA
Hello Sascha Franck, I hope you're not mad at me; you seem like a very nice caring person but with a hard cool shell though. And I think THE FEX may blow a gasket soon, I hope not.
Hello, jancivil, everybody should listen to jancivil's music, it is like going to an art gallery of instrument sounds, not paint. But I mean that in the good way, not the hilarious way you just did me.
I'm surprised nobody had much information on chords for scales; out of over a hundred posts. I don't think anybody's mentioned chord progressions, so I will do that now. It seems like maybe many composers almost entirely just use them, as they are about the only reference to chords used in a particular scale in all my theory books, not counting the diatonic keys. I don't like the idea of using chord progressions, because it's essentially is stealing from other songs, however one of my theory books make it seem like many chord progressions are as common as a single chord may be, in a way, but is used throughout the whole song and even without necessarily altering any of the chord sequences. I think if someone wanted a good chance at using the most perfect chords in a song, using a chord progression would be just as original as your own because, there are only so many chord combinations mathematically possible and there are so many millions of songs out there with chord combinations. Some chord progressions are written in Chase charts, and it may take a little while to learn how to read these Chase charts though.
Hello, jancivil, everybody should listen to jancivil's music, it is like going to an art gallery of instrument sounds, not paint. But I mean that in the good way, not the hilarious way you just did me.
I'm surprised nobody had much information on chords for scales; out of over a hundred posts. I don't think anybody's mentioned chord progressions, so I will do that now. It seems like maybe many composers almost entirely just use them, as they are about the only reference to chords used in a particular scale in all my theory books, not counting the diatonic keys. I don't like the idea of using chord progressions, because it's essentially is stealing from other songs, however one of my theory books make it seem like many chord progressions are as common as a single chord may be, in a way, but is used throughout the whole song and even without necessarily altering any of the chord sequences. I think if someone wanted a good chance at using the most perfect chords in a song, using a chord progression would be just as original as your own because, there are only so many chord combinations mathematically possible and there are so many millions of songs out there with chord combinations. Some chord progressions are written in Chase charts, and it may take a little while to learn how to read these Chase charts though.