KVR Audio

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:07 pm

Robmobius wrote:
billcarroll wrote:I place Strobe 2 in the same class and price range as u-he Diva.
I'd be the same.

And i too. Love that sound!

Robmobius · Post by **Robmobius** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:10 pm

murnau wrote:
Robmobius wrote:
billcarroll wrote:I place Strobe 2 in the same class and price range as u-he Diva.
I'd be the same.

And i too. Love that sound!

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wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:12 pm

Robmobius wrote:
murnau wrote:
Robmobius wrote:
billcarroll wrote:I place Strobe 2 in the same class and price range as u-he Diva.
I'd be the same.
And i too. Love that sound!

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There is no question it sounds great. And if I didn't already own more synths than I should, I'd probably get it. I certainly like the way it sounds more than Rayblaster and Electra 2, which I definitely now feel are overpriced. But that was a long time ago when I got them and wasn't as savvy as I am now.

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:39 pm

is it exactely the same filters, osc as strobe 1? it's the same audio engine i have read somewhere is that true?

Angus_FX · Post by **Angus_FX** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:03 pm

is it exactely the same filters, osc as strobe 1? it's the same audio engine i have read somewhere is that true?

No. The oscillator is a rewrite - has a great deal in common sonically, but significant new features & far better CPU efficiency at high polyphony on modern CPUs. More range on the subs, sub-unlink, phase-reset, tone controls, Hz and Beat based detuning, waveshaper on sub,

The filter is the same topology, but again there are substantial changes under the hood, gain-compensation on the overdrive (so the tone changes as you drive the filter but volume stays mostly constant), bleedthrough, smooth transition between different modes (no clicking when switching from LPF to HPF, say). There are some subtle changes to the saturation in the filter core, but that's mostly not audible.

More info:
http://fxpansion1.com/resourceUploads/S ... ts_New.pdf

Apostate · Post by **Apostate** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:29 pm

I just got word from my Sweetwater sales guy that Strobe 2 is going to be selling on their site (he's putting a special order in for me, but apparently you'll be seeing up globally very soon).

This includes Angus' upgrade price, a price I would pay in full if not for the fact that Reaktor 6 came out first, making me very happy to instead take advantage of Sweetwater's three payment plan.

I believe that makes it about $26.33 a month, 36.33 for the first month only. I'd hope that should appease at least some people having that are problems with the price.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:43 pm

No because you're still paying the same price... except now you're breaking it up into payments and owing for something you already have for many months after... so its even worse in that situation. An installment plan on (hobby) software seems absurd to me.

I figure the price is the price.. you'll either buy it or not. Software prices decay over time so eventually there will be a sale/reduction in price.. and those who like the sound but not the price might buy then. Either way life progresses forward..

Robmobius · Post by **Robmobius** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:47 pm

VitaminD wrote: An installment plan on (hobby) software seems absurd to me. .

But maybe not to others...

Apostate · Post by **Apostate** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:53 pm

Robmobius wrote:
VitaminD wrote: An installment plan on (hobby) software seems absurd to me. .
But maybe not to others...

May I have a definition of "hobby software", please?

And is there a reason people are so adamant about repeating their distaste for the price? If you said it once, why keep defending it? Others seem to like it just fine, does that make them hobbyists? Because that definitely does not apply to some people here, trust me on this.

No offense meant to anyone. It just seems strange that some people would be so adamant. Don't buy it, nobody cares.

Robmobius · Post by **Robmobius** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:58 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Robmobius wrote:
murnau wrote:
Robmobius wrote:
billcarroll wrote:I place Strobe 2 in the same class and price range as u-he Diva.
I'd be the same.
And i too. Love that sound!

There is no question it sounds great. And if I didn't already own more synths than I should, I'd probably get it. I certainly like the way it sounds more than Rayblaster and Electra 2, which I definitely now feel are overpriced. But that was a long time ago when I got them and wasn't as savvy as I am now. [/quote]

I agree with you W. If you've got lots of stuff already, then there's no need for an overlap per se.

Ahem... Although, I did purchase it, and I've lots of stuff.

But I did only pay the upgrade price (which seemed pretty fair to me). If I'm being honest, I would have bought Strobe2 at full price because I loved the original so much. Although, my wallet would have been annoyed.

But weighing up price and products that you already own is always going to be a factor. So, a lower price is always going to be an incentive for people in that situation.

U-he are great for this, and I kinda' apply it to Strobe 2 as well (even tho' it's an upgrade). That is to say, always buy your product at the intro price where you can. It can save you a nice bit of doh in the end.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:58 pm

One of the reasons KVR exists, is that people can complain about things and the pricing of an instrument upgrade is always worth a rant.

Robmobius · Post by **Robmobius** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:59 pm

Apostate wrote:
Robmobius wrote:
VitaminD wrote: An installment plan on (hobby) software seems absurd to me. .
But maybe not to others...

May I have a definition of "hobby software", please?

Yeah, count me in on that too V.D.

Apostate · Post by **Apostate** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:00 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:But one of the reasons KVR exists, is that people can complain about things and the pricing of an instrument upgrade is always worth a rant.

Ooooh, I get it. Sometimes I just need to hear somebody say it aloud.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:02 pm

Robmobius wrote:
VitaminD wrote: An installment plan on (hobby) software seems absurd to me. .
But maybe not to others...

Yes I see that.. But why finance entertainment? That is what a hobby is.. Why not just save until you can buy it outright and then it is yours.. no catches.. no installment plans.. no owing anyone anything else.

I wouldn't finance a trip to the movies or a disney ticket.. same category.

And this 180 dollar price is sticking around.. it isn't a limited time offer. Nor is the upgrade fee. So there is no financial advantage to rush out now and get it...

But yes.. if it works for you.. then by all means.. it just seems to be a very dangerous mentality to get into.. installment plans for everything..

Apostate · Post by **Apostate** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:03 pm

VitaminD wrote:
Robmobius wrote:
VitaminD wrote: An installment plan on (hobby) software seems absurd to me. .
But maybe not to others...
Yes I see that.. But why finance entertainment? That is what a hobby is.. Why not just save until you can buy it outright and then it is yours.. no catches.. no installment plans.. no owing anyone anything else.

I wouldn't finance a trip to the movies or a disney ticket.. same category.

Same category for who? Does that include, for example, the people here who make money from music? I don't think that would go over well for them. Them includes me.

Perhaps your definition describes more your own relationship with making music. Again, no offense.

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