When can we stop making 32-bit plugins?

[GaryG]

Add FX window.
Right click on the plugin.
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Embed bridged UI

REAPER will remember this setting.
Few months later you may catch yourself not even remembering if that plugin was 64 or 32 bit.

Oh bloody hell! How long have I been missing out on that one? But how unstable does it make some plugins, is that a big issue?

I've never had an issue bridging plugs like this; it's just an option that dictates where the UI displays, doesn't actually run the plugin any differently (I believe) to a regularly, non-embedded 32 bit'er. I must say I don't use many 32 bit plugs now so haven't exhaustively tested this but all my old SE & SM faves (Nasty DLA etc) perform perfectly.

[Mutant]

Add FX window.
Right click on the plugin.
Run As
Embed bridged UI

REAPER will remember this setting.
Few months later you may catch yourself not even remembering if that plugin was 64 or 32 bit.

Oh bloody hell! How long have I been missing out on that one? But how unstable does it make some plugins, is that a big issue?

I never encountered a plugin that would be stable without it and unstable with it.

[goldenhelix]

I certainly had some cool 32-bit only plugins that I sometimes miss (some of the old TAL lineup and DtBlkFx) but for the most part I have moved on. For a while I had a bunch of bridged plugins but at this point I don't even bother anymore.

[SeeingInMidi]

I use 64bit... and VST3... and Windows 10... No problem over here, I make music, I get paid, I barely ever run into problems with plugins. Give me all the benefits that technology can offer me.

Use jbridge if you really want to use a 32bit plugin, or better yet, find a better alternative. Quit whining, the world moves on without you.

[A_SN]

Also, it's not true AT ALL in Mac OS X.

True, for this my installation instructions say which of the possible folders to choose, seems not to be a problem.

and VST3...

Wait, is that something people actually use?

Use jbridge

Didn't know about this one

[SeeingInMidi]

The 32 bit version is only to placate Luddites like Layzer..

call me whatever you like, scumbag. you can go FK your future self.

What's the matter Princess ? Someone giving you a taste of your own medicine ? Now you know how annoying you and your constant whining about "bloat" is to the rest of us.

nothings the matter, tinkerbell. just enjoying your constant stream of the usual BS.

You damn ding dongs, 32 bit and 64 bit are so barbaric, go plugin free and record all your parts onto multiple casette tapes, but limit yourself to only 16 tapes because beyond that is a waste of money. Once you have all your parts recorded, get yourself 16 Sony CFD-S50 casette players, the ones with the built-in speakers and send them into an empty 50 square feet wooden room. The room has to be made out of agar wood or else the acoustics wont sound right. Make sure you spread all the Sony CFD-S50 casette players in a circle, evenely spread out with the speakers pointing inwards. Make sure you have loaded your casette tapes into each Sony CFD-S50 casette player. Now mount any Hamilton casette recorder (the ones with the built-in microphones) to the middle of the ceiling with the microphone pointing downwards to the center of the room. Now heres the tricky part, you're going to need 16 buddies to help you out. It's going to be hard because you actually only really have 4 friends. So what you do is hire 7 other buddies on craigslist and get your dumbass brother-in-law (the one that always shows up to thanksgiving late and doesn't ever bring dessert because hes an ass) to help out. Now designate each buddy to a separate casette player and count down from 3 to 0. On zero, everyone will press the play button at the same exact time, and you will press the record button on the Hamilton casette player that is located on the ceiling. Once that is done, everyone has to run out of the room without tripping on any of the casette players and the last one out has to shut the door gently so it doesnt make any noise. Once the master tape is done recording, congradulations you have suceeded. You can now send that tape to your favorite aunt who lives in paris with her really weird boyfriend that you pretend to like. While you wait for your aunt to receive the casette tape, you can dwell on the poor choices in your life like using 32-bit plugins in 2017.

By the way, your aunt doesnt own a casette player.

Edit: the reason why you use agar wood to build your room is because its a very fibrous wood, it absorbs highs really well. It almost acts as a natural de-esser. Don't bellieve me? Go to your local home hardware store and start yelling at the different planks of woods. Pay close attention to the highs and esses and see how they affect it.

[mcbpete]

I use 64bit... and VST3... and Windows 10... No problem over here, I make music, I get paid, I barely ever run into problems with plugins. Give me all the benefits that technology can offer me.

Use jbridge if you really want to use a 32bit plugin, or better yet, find a better alternative. Quit whining, the world moves on with you.

Ditto (well except the bit about being paid!). Supposedly jBridge is also meant to be able to host 64 bit plugins in 32 bit hosts - Has anyone tried it that way round? I can kinda see how it works the 'normal' way (of hosting 32bit plugins in 64 bit DAWs) but the other way seems like arcane magic - How are you meant to squeeze a big block into a small hole ?!

[Saukar30]

Add FX window.
Right click on the plugin.
Run As
Embed bridged UI

REAPER will remember this setting.
Few months later you may catch yourself not even remembering if that plugin was 64 or 32 bit.

Oh bloody hell! How long have I been missing out on that one? But how unstable does it make some plugins, is that a big issue?

I never encountered a plugin that would be stable without it and unstable with it.

Thanks again Mutant! Just put some of my old 32 bit plugs in Reaper. Got all my Bootsy plugs back!! Plus a couple of my favorite instruments as well like SQ8L & Drumatic 3. The big 1 is Phrazor though! They all work, just sometimes the gui pixelates until I move the plugin.

[A_SN]

The case is getting pretty strong for not making 32-bit plugins anymore tbh.

How are you meant to squeeze a big block into a small hole ?!

It's not about size at all, actually it should work the same way, it's about having two separate processes, one 32-bit the other 64-bit, communicating with each other. So the process that hosts the plugin exchanges inputs and outputs with the DAW, doesn't matter which is 32-bit or not. The only caveat of course is that your OS must be 64-bit otherwise it can't run anything 64-bit.

[mcbpete]

The only caveat of course is that your OS must be 64-bit otherwise it can't run anything 64-bit.

Aha, yeah that was the bit I wasn't quite sure of - that clears that up, thanks

[Mutant]

Thanks again Mutant! Just put some of my old 32 bit plugs in Reaper. Got all my Bootsy plugs back!! Plus a couple of my favorite instruments as well like SQ8L & Drumatic 3. The big 1 is Phrazor though! They all work, just sometimes the gui pixelates until I move the plugin.

Yeah. Variety of Sound and SQ8L and Drumatic 3 are some of the biggest reasons for me to want to be able to use 32bit plugins.
My "default" project in REAPER loads NastyDLAmkII, epicVerb and FerricTDS.

[Vertion]

OP: When someone here can beat my score at a game of Progress Quest, there will be no more 32-bit plugins made.

[egbert101]

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[izonin]

4GB of RAM is more than enough for the majority of EDM style tracks. I only see the need to use a 64-bit DAW and plugins when doing orchestral stuff.

So using a 32-bit DAW gives you the best of both new and old VSTs, without any compromise on stability.

[highkoo]

^ True.
But, it doesnt matter.
The world moves on arbitrarily, and so should we.