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wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:28 pm

Teksonik wrote:Checking out your patches I got this with the "Calamity Jane" patch. I don;t have the path on my computer. Is this the path you have Diodow / Tranzistow installed ?

If so there may be problems sharing patches if everyone uses a different install path. My patches will kick up a warning on your system etc ?

As that's a factory sample, and should be in your samples folder, I have no idea what could be causing that. There are some patches in there made with my own samples that won't work because I did not include the samples in the upload. But that patch SHOULD work. So my guess is, yes, the path's have to be the same. But I don't know. You'll have to ask the dev.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:29 pm

egbert101 wrote:All that time spending on different coloured displays that the developer should have done himself, is time not spent designing sounds or making music.

I happen to enjoy doing GUI edits and have for many years. I find it relaxing and creatively rewarding. Plus having all the plugins that I can edit look just the way I want allows me to work more efficiently so in the long run it helps productivity.

But as mentioned Diodow and Tranzistow are considered finished products by the developer. If they don't suite you or if you find the feature set incomplete you might as well move on. They are not going to change.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:36 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Teksonik wrote:Checking out your patches I got this with the "Calamity Jane" patch. I don;t have the path on my computer. Is this the path you have Diodow / Tranzistow installed ?

If so there may be problems sharing patches if everyone uses a different install path. My patches will kick up a warning on your system etc ?
As that's a factory sample, and should be in your samples folder, I have no idea what could be causing that. There are some patches in there made with my own samples that won't work because I did not include the samples in the upload. But that patch SHOULD work. So my guess is, yes, the path's have to be the same. But I don't know. You'll have to ask the dev.

Apparently that's going to be a problem then as we try to share patches. I have those samples but in a different location. I think there are going to be a lot of people who don't install plugins in the Steinberg folder (I don't even have that folder).

As for asking the developer he's said:

* The synthesizer is "feature finished" - no new features will be added so, please, don't ask for a new feature, user interface changes, VST3 support, additional VST automation support, VST preset management, etc. I also don't have any plans to support AU, AAX, RTAS or any other platform beside VST.

So it would be pointless to ask for this issue to be resolved if it is indeed going to be an issue. We just have to live with the quirks whatever they may be

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:41 pm

Hmmm I got this with another one of your patches.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:47 pm

Yeah, the patches samples are hard coded from wherever you pulled them from.

Easy solution.

Find the sample on your system. Load it in and resave the patch. It'll take all of 15 seconds if that.

But yeah, patch sharing, if using samples, is going to be a bit of a headache.

No way around it.

noizetronic · Post by **noizetronic** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:53 pm

Thank you Mr. HrastProgrammer for these gems and Wagtunes for the patches!

I found the following problems:

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calamity jane		c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0004.wav
car wreck			c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm191.wav
clockwork orange	c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm187.wav 4x mute
cyclotron12			c:\temp\diodow\diodowpatches\samples\e0009.wav
					c:\temp\diodow\diodowpatches\samples\e0006.wav
digsby diggens		c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm166.wav
genesis pad			c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm088.wav
i am insane			c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0046.wav
jet fighter			c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm190.wav 4x mute
lab experiment		c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0007.wav
					c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0034.wav
					c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0042.wav
make it stop		c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0031.wav
					c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0044.wav
					c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0009.wav
					c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0046.wav
massive pad			c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm186.wav
oriental dreams		c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm194.wav 4x almost mute
repro pad			c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm189.wav
taste of buchla		c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm185.wav
the uprising		c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm193.wav
train to nowhere	c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm188.wav 4x
tz mutant crickets	c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0019.wav

Maybe the samples need a relative path and / or are missing from the archive?

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:57 pm

noizetronic wrote:Thank you Mr. Hrstprogrammer for these gems and Wagtunes for the patches!

I found the following problems:

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calamity jane		c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0004.wav
car wreck			c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm191.wav
clockwork orange	c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm187.wav 4x mute
cyclotron12			c:\temp\diodow\diodowpatches\samples\e0009.wav
					c:\temp\diodow\diodowpatches\samples\e0006.wav
digsby diggens		c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm166.wav
genesis pad			c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm088.wav
i am insane			c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0046.wav
jet fighter			c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm190.wav 4x mute
lab experiment		c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0007.wav
					c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0034.wav
					c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0042.wav
make it stop		c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0031.wav
					c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0044.wav
					c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0009.wav
					c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0046.wav
massive pad			c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm186.wav
oriental dreams		c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm194.wav 4x almost mute
repro pad			c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm189.wav
taste of buchla		c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm185.wav
the uprising		c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm193.wav
train to nowhere	c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\wagsrfm188.wav 4x
tz mutant crickets	c:\program files\steinberg\vstplugins\diodow\diodowpatches\e0019.wav

Maybe the samples need a relative path and / or are missing from the archive?

1. I did not include the custom samples with the patches.

2. The synth apparently hard codes the path for the samples. So it is looking for the EXACT path that is on my system, which obviously won't match yours.

For the factory samples, which you have, simply find them on your system (they're in the samples folder) and reload them into the correct oscillator and then resave the patch.

Not ideal, but it is what it is.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:08 pm

Samples can be relative paths too. Just remove the absolute part of the path and only leave the part relative to the .hp preset in. Easy to batch text edit that.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:17 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Samples can be relative paths too. Just remove the absolute part of the path and only leave the part relative to the .hp preset in. Easy to batch text edit that.

And exactly how do you do that? I have absolutely no idea how to edit paths in this synth.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:20 pm

I have not had any errors with the EDT patches that do include the same samples "E0044" etc. Not sure why no errors with those patches. I tried placing the samples folder in the same folder as your patches but no luck. We can't expect the plugin to search our entire hard drives looking for the samples used in patches.

Maybe if there was a standardized location for patches e.g. My Documents / Diodow. You could then have the .dll anywhere you want ? Not sure if that would work or not.

Bottom line is we can't expect any help from the developer and I'm fine with that, he made it for himself so if it doesn't work perfectly for us then that's our bad luck.

Shame as the sound of these plugins rivals or bests some commercial plugins. But I've had three consecutive crashes with Diodow in Reaper so for me these plugins will have to remain fun novelties not to be used in serious projects due to the quirks and lack of ongoing support. Again I understand and respect the developer's stance on Diodow and Tranzistow.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:24 pm

I assume the values here must be changed ?

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:25 pm

Teksonik wrote:I assume the values here must be changed ?

What file did you get those from?

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:27 pm

Teksonik wrote:I have not had any errors with the EDT patches that do include the same samples "E0044" etc. Not sure why no errors with those patches. I tried placing the samples folder in the same folder as your patches but no luck. We can't expect the plugin to search our entire hard drives looking for the samples used in patches.

Maybe if there was a standardized location for patches e.g. My Documents / Diodow. You could then have the .dll anywhere you want ? Not sure if that would work or not.

Bottom line is we can't expect any help from the developer and I'm fine with that, he made it for himself so if it doesn't work perfectly for us then that's our bad luck.

Shame as the sound of these plugins rivals or bests some commercial plugins. But I've had three consecutive crashes with Diodow in Reaper so for me these plugins will have to remain fun novelties not to be used in serious projects due to the quirks and lack of ongoing support. Again I understand and respect the developer's stance on Diodow and Tranzistow.

The EDT patches work because somehow he made those relative paths. I don't know how to do that.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:27 pm

Ok this explains why no error with the EDT patches:

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:28 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Teksonik wrote:I assume the values here must be changed ?
What file did you get those from?

Open a patch file with Note Pad.

So the question is how to create patches the way EDT did.......

Tranzistow/Diodow