Running commercial audio software on linux

[glokraw]

I also noticed Guitar Rig 5 could be registerd offline
using Native Instruments older Service Center, and a serial number.
Have not tried that yet in puppy, but will as time allows.
There is a free GR5 player, and well stocked with effects.
Requires a Native Instruments account, with download link
sent by email after clicking download from their Free apps area.
Cheers

[Boone777]

I thought you needed Native Access to install the new version. It's a bit of a pita. I tried today on Xubuntu it downloads then it crashes at around 95%. The download is still completed in drive_c/user/downloads/Native Instruments where you can see the iso in .wine but mounting the iso is where the command line does'nt work for me.
https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.ph ... ve#p106717

Can you ask for any plugin from NI using the email download ?
I guess that's a work around for offline install.

[glokraw]

Some of the older NI products can be authorized in
Service Center, if it is installed. And also
be authorized by Native Access, it's present
and working.
This is the free products page:

posting.php?mode=reply&f=16&t=503359

I think that now, all the products are included in
the newish Komplete Start, with individual items also
available.

Here are the steps to install a Native Instruments product
that arrives as a .iso file. (the puppy linux wine version
may not be new enough, but the command you ask for is below...
This was in linux Mint 18,
with wine-staging 4.21 (edit -actually, it's V 4.20).
I'll use the great Reaktor ensemble
'Rounds' as the example. Note the " " in the commands are needed
to process empty spaces in the command-paths/content titles)

Start Native Access:

wine "/home/you/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Native Instruments/Native Access/Native Access.exe"

In Native Access, select the purchased but not yet installed Rounds.

NA will begin downloading the item, and then report failure.
Actually, the download itself does complete,
find it with this command:

cd /home/you/.wine/drive_c/users/you/Downloads

then command: ls (you will then see the Rounds.iso file)

Make a place to access the Rounds.iso content:

sudo mkdir /mnt/rounds

Access the .iso content:

cd /home/you/.wine/drive_c/users/you/Downloads

sudo mount -t udf Rounds.iso -o unhide /mnt/rounds

The system will respond to success with:

'mount: /dev/loop0 is write-protected, mounting read-only'

Now, go to the folder holding the contents of the .iso:

cd /mnt/rounds

ls (this now displays the mac and pc installers that are in the .iso)

Run the installer:

cd /mnt/Rounds

wine "Rounds 1.2.0 Setup PC.exe"

When the installer completes, close and relaunch Native Access.
(edit: it may take a few moments for Native Access to verify
the successful install, and move your purchase to the installed
panel).
If after some time, your Rounds is still not in the installed panel,
copy it's serial number from your
Native Instruments account page, and in Native Access,
click the 'add serial number' widget. Those last steps may vary,
depending on if your purchase was second-hand, part of a bundle,
or if the mood of Native Access at the time was dubious.
Cheers

[Paree]

I thought you needed Native Access to install the new version. It's a bit of a pita. I tried today on Xubuntu it downloads then it crashes at around 95%. The download is still completed in drive_c/user/downloads/Native Instruments where you can see the iso in .wine but mounting the iso is where the command line does'nt work for me.
https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.ph ... ve#p106717

Can you ask for any plugin from NI using the email download ?
I guess that's a work around for offline install.

I never mounted the ISO, what i do is go to the downloads folder, extract the contents of ISO file using Archive Manager and then install.

Also, has anyone got 2getheraudio stuff working?

[glokraw]

Thanks for the tip about extracting from the iso.
The dawning is slow here
during parts of the eliptical orbit

I tried G8tor in a couple wine setups, and reaper wouldn't
scan it in either one. But there wasn't too much terminal
output, maybe the LinVst dev at the reaper linux forum
could figure it out?
Cheers

[Paree]

Thanks for the tip about extracting from the iso.
The dawning is slow here
during parts of the eliptical orbit

I tried G8tor in a couple wine setups, and reaper wouldn't
scan it in either one. But there wasn't too much terminal
output, maybe the LinVst dev at the reaper linux forum
could figure it out?
Cheers

Maybe, but even the standalone refuses to run.

[glokraw]

The holidays are fading fast, but not the music!
For the POSTFU crowd, the setup shown is linux Reaper 5.987
running linvst-wrapped Kontakt 6 West Africa lib
for the keyboard player, while the the strummNpicker dude
is flailinging away mercilessly on the guitar, seeing how long
the neighbors cat can hold on to the ceiling (some people! )

Made a fresh install of Ubuntu Studio 19.10 and copied over
my wine-staging from the now somewhat elderly Mint 18 setup.
Ran the linvstconverttree app on the vst and Native Instruments
plugins folders, and

wii bii jammmmiiinnnnnnn

Who not to thank? I've learned so much from people freely
sharing their knowledge, people creating fabulous instruments,
effects, and daws, at affordable prices as well as many free versions.
The best year ever to create music is upon us, so play often,
and play wisely

K6-CoCo-Reaper.png

[audiojunkie]

Nice!

[Paree]

Great! I wanted to try ubuntu studio but i dont like xfce at all. I'd have used it if it used something like MATE or KDE or Cinnamon.

[courtjestr]

If you are on an Ubuntu based distro, you can install Ubuntu Studio overtop your existing system. From the download page https://ubuntustudio.org/download/

Ubuntu Studio’s default ISO uses the Xfce desktop environment. If you wish to use other desktop environments, Ubuntu Studio can be installed on Ubuntu or any official Ubuntu flavor using the Ubuntu Studio Installer.

More info about the installer can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubunt ... oInstaller
(note the link to the installer on the download page is wrong).

[audiojunkie]

Good information guys!! How is the latency with Ubuntu Studio's Low Latency Kernel vs a vanilla or a RT Kernel? Does Ubuntu Studio require any special configuring, or is it already pre configured and works out of the box?

[glokraw]

Great! I wanted to try ubuntu studio but i dont like xfce at all. I'd have used it if it used something like MATE or KDE or Cinnamon.

You can install a system gui you like. I installed Enlightenment
from the repo, and it loaded on reboot. A good login manager
will let you pick which session you like. I'm not a fan of
xfce visuals, but a panel that's easy to modify is important,
and the color-schemes should be easy to change, too.
Cheers

[glokraw]

I figured a linux setup that runs Kontakt, would also run SampleTank,
but such was not the case
On my shiny new Ubuntu Studio 19.10 setup,
SampleTank required some bits and bobs. Lacking time to test them
individually, I did them in one go, and SampleTank came to life.

To linux, and wine-staging 4.20 setup, I added libpng12.0
(most distros moved on th 16.x,
but plugins can move slower )

I then added wine over-rides for
mfc90.dll
ucrtbase.dll
d2d1.dll
d3d9.dll
Previous over-rides for Kontakt were
mfc42.dll
mfc140.dll
32 bit mfc42.dll
32 bit mfc42u.dll
The 32 bit versions go in the .wine/drive_c/windows/syswow64 folder.
I first nenamed the suspected weak dll's by adding DEFAULT to
their extension,(easy to find later in a file manager, if needed)
then copied over the real windows dll alongside them.

Then in the winecfg config panel, in the libraries tab,
enter (just) the name of the dll,
don't add the .dll bit, and click the nearby 'add' button,
and then the 'apply' button down below.

Well worth the effort, and it likely paves the way for other
plugins to work in your linux. I got distracted for a while
by Synthmaster One, a sequencer, and Reapers handy.
'save live output to disk' option.
Cheers

[courtjestr]

Wine staging seems to be at 5.0 rc4. At least that is what gets installed on my 18.04 system. Did you pin your wine-staging to 4.20 somehow? I wonder how kontakt etc works with 5.0.

[glokraw]

I tested Native Access in V5.03, to verify it worked OK, but kept
4.20 because so much was installed and in working order.
Native Instruments have that new teaser bundle, 'Komplete Start'

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/catalog/free/

You could test with that, as well as the individual player versions,
and this years holiday gift, the Raum Reverb, which is very nice,
but only for presets in my use, as moving a gui knob crashes reaper

My strategerie is to preserve things found to work:

In synaptic package manager, configure it to keep downloaded
packages in the cache, and periodically copy them to backup drives.

Make copies of the entire ,wine folder, and the system wine folder,
from /opt, /usr/lib or wherever it is.

I look and note if any symbolic links are used. I think a few apps,
when installed in a wine in /opt, may need a link to something expected
to be found in /usr/lib/wine or similar.

I have well stocked .wine folders for Mint 18, Bodhi 5, Ubuntu Studio 19.10
Puppy Studio 1337 and Bionic 64 (where the whole meal deal
is a .4fs squash-filesystem anyway )
and pclinuxos, which rarely updates wine.
I've read many horror stories where windows people were saddled
with long tedious reinstallation sessions, and decided an ounce of
prevention is a backpack of cure. Anyway, if a big reinstall is ever needed,
most people are aware of things that never got used the first time,
and can cut corners

And then there are drive cloners like Clonezilla, probably should boost my
luck quotient, and learn that whole thingymabob.
Cheers