AMD Ryzen 3rd gen. ZEN 2 processors for audio PC

[Scotty]

I'm waiting for the 3950x , because maybe it will be 25-30% better than 3900x (it kinda has to be, for amd to be able to sell it at 850$ price). If you multiply the cpubenchmark number of 3900x with 1.25 , you get a very high number.

I'm basing this theory on the fact, that there's big gap between 3700x/3800x and 3900x performance, even though they're from same architecture. Those extra 4 cores are proving to be valuable.

The only thing that I can think might reduce the benefit of the additonal 4 cores in the 3950x is the overhead associated with another chiplet... It won't need another die but that extra chiplet could take a toll on real time audio at low buffers. So I think we need to wait and see but all things being equal I am hoping for a 20% increase or more given that the 3950x are supposed to be specially binned for good performance to in part justify the higher cost.

[Ben H]

So right now Ryzen CPUs have the better price/performance ratio across all fields for audio!

Its your money .. if you want to add 1500 dollars on a few % extra.. Even if I had that money to waste, I still would not buy it. For that money you can get TWO Ryzen 3900x systems and use VI...

A 2800 dollar CPU competes with sub 500 dollar CPUs. Thats a MAJOR achievement on AMDs side. Also last years AMD TR 2990 wins by far at 256 smple latency...

Also if you do compression or calculations and not only audio ... ... AMD wins.

Um... I didn't say that.

[fedexnman]

Ben H did you have a bad experience or still dealing with a poor experience from an AMD product ? Just curious , not trying to stir the pot here .

[Scoox]

Which of AMD's CPUs competes directly with Intle's 9900K?

[Scotty]

Which of AMD's CPUs competes directly with Intle's 9900K?

The 3900x beats the 9900K in every dawbench across every buffer setting that ScanAudio showed in their latest tests. The 9900k is $484.99 US at newgg.com The Ryzen 3700 is $329.00 At newegg.com (edited thanks for the correction fedexaman). Supply is short now.

Edited for better pricing.

[fedexnman]

Which of AMD's CPUs competes directly with Intle's 9900K?

The 3900x beats the 9900K in every dawbench across every buffer setting that ScanAudio showed in their latest tests. The 9900k is $484.99 US at Amazon.com The Ryzen 3700 is $429.00 At Amazon.com

3900x is $499 out of stock it seems everywhere . The 3700 is NOT $429 but $329 at Newegg .... Good ole Amazon prices ...lolz

[Scoox]

Which of AMD's CPUs competes directly with Intle's 9900K?

The 3900x beats the 9900K in every dawbench across every buffer setting that ScanAudio showed in their latest tests. The 9900k is $484.99 US at Amazon.com The Ryzen 3700 is $429.00 At Amazon.com

3900x is $499 out of stock it seems everywhere . The 3700 is NOT $429 but $329 at Newegg .... Good ole Amazon prices ...lolz

Unfortunately not everyone can buy from Newegg

[fedexnman]

Yeah, you gotta watch the pricing over at Newegg too ..... I wouldn't buy a 3700 for $429 though .

[Obsolete317542]

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[Passing Bye]

This test shows a 50 to 400% difference between those 2 exact same processors. Adding 2 cores to a 6 core processor shouldn't make it 4 times as fast!

There's only one i5 processor with 6 cores 6 threads and one i7 processor with 8 cores 8 threads, so there's 2 cores and 2 threads difference, all the rest are i9 processors with 8 cores 16 threads, 14 cores 28 threads, 16 cores 32 threads.

[fedexnman]

Yep i9 is the only one with the extra threads now , basically i9 replaces the i7 , i7 is just like an i5 now basically .

[Obsolete317542]

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[pljones]

What it may indicate is that the previous test didn't stretch the i5 and i7 processors sufficiently and they showed linear performance difference. If the new test is overloading the i5 very quickly (or it's even started overloaded) but the extra performance of the i7 is used up later, then you could see radically different results, such as this. Basically, you can't expect to compare the old figures meaningfully with the new figures. That's why a new "full" set of figures is provided.

[Scotty]

Yeah, you gotta watch the pricing over at Newegg too ..... I wouldn't buy a 3700 for $429 though .

I edited my post ... thanks for the redirect. $329.00 if really amazing value. It will be interesting to see if AMD can keep up with demand and not give in to the temptation of jacking up the prices.

[Passing Bye]

I don't understand why you keep repeating this. The i5 has 6 cores. The i7 has 8 cores. I know and understand this. I am not confused by this. But adding 2 cores (=33% more cores) should equal 33% more performance.

Because there's threads too, so put them into equation also, i9 have 8 cores too, but it have 16 threads, so by your math difference should be smaller, but in real life it's not.

The previous DAW Bench showed it to be exactly that: 33% more performance. Now in this latest round of DAW Bench, these same two processors are shown to be miles apart. The i7 is at least 50% faster, in some cases 400% faster. Doesn't make sense to me. Something is wrong.

It's not the exactly the same test

With news over the past 12 months of security concerns and various performance affecting patches that have since followed, I’ve set up a new test bench where the Windows 10 build being used is the current 1903 with all drivers being freshly installed. Also given all these changes I’ve benched a number of the Intel chips in this round of testing, with both of the Z390 and X299 boards being fully updated Asus Prime boards.

On top of that reinstall and due to exceeding the benchmarking overhead in the last round with the largest available chips, I’ve made a few modifications to the standard DAWBench tests this time as I suspect that I run the risk of easily surpassing the tests in their default forms.

Drop Kaine private message and get over with it.