Arturia VCollection 7 Official thread

[ChamomileShark]

im wondering where ppl are getting all these old hardware synths such as Synthi to make such comparisons....

I have a Synthi and played others in the past. Perhaps that helps to set the context. But I would say that even if you watched Youtube demos you would probably pick up a difference.

perhaps you could upload a couple of A/B wavs for us?

I'll do an A but not a B..I'm not inclined to download the Arturia thing - but if you tell me what you would want on a VCS3 then I can probably do that.

In the meantime here are a few typical sounds

https://soundcloud.com/chamomile-shark/ ... -with-love

https://soundcloud.com/chamomile-shark/ ... -ems-patch

[AnX]

a couple of slow filter sweeps (hi/lo) and maybe some fast seq envs?

[functionform]

Lord that sounds glorious. No one expects Arturia to produce Legend or Repro level emulations, but I think a lot of us are rebelling to that upgrade price due to how far from the synths the new emulations are - especially since a lot of us are pretty loyal customers. Don't get me wrong, I see value in Arturia's synths. To me it's sort of like the Pro level kbrown. "Inspired by" but not accurate.

[ChamomileShark]

ok, so here they are. All are very simple patches that an emulation should be able to do easily. I would expect any emulation to struggle with more complex patches.

On the hardware if you go above about 7 on anything it will start to distort slightly - I've kept everything below that. Another thing about the Synthis is that the patch matrix isn't buffered - every pin you put in tends to affect everything else.

For the sequesnces they are a bit out of tune - you have to tune the octave spread - ie you don't just tune a note and expect the octave to be in tune..you have to do both. Or it could be I recorded this before the 20 mins or so warm up period...

so...

all 3 oscillators with the waveforms at the same level - shape set at mid point

https://soundcloud.com/chamomile-shark/ ... sweep-demo

Short envelopes - Single Oscillator. Envelope Shaper CV to filter set low. The Synthi's don't really do snappy! This is with Attack, On, Decay at zero.

https://soundcloud.com/chamomile-shark/ ... seq-demo-1

This one has higher levels to On and decay - but increased Envelope Shaper CV to filter.

https://soundcloud.com/chamomile-shark/ems-seq-demo-2




A more musical example that demos the filter's properties - I've heard this particular sound many times on albums

https://soundcloud.com/chamomile-shark/demo-ems-seq

I think I've set most of these to download.

[secretkillerofnames]

Numerous times I've bought and sold the Arturia V collection.
It always comes down to the fact that I'd rather be making music with unique and interesting sounds than something emulated.
I've played with real Arp 2600s, Buchla Easels, DX7s, CZs, and Synthi's. Assessing their "V" counterparts for "realism" is a total waste of time. While they are very good at modelling the originals, none of them approximate the reality of using one of the actual synths.
Yet clearly Arturia sell them based on the presumption of accuracy.
It's a game of pretend.
Does playing a Flight Simulator qualify you to fly a plane?
It can certainly help you learn but without logging hours in a metal tube suspended in air focused on avoiding fiery death you ain't flying!
Numerous artists make music with V Collection, much of it I like. It's not the plugins that make the music though - it is people with the talent to bend the sounds in a direction appropriate to the context.
They may as well be using samples though as the reality is that many of these synths are hard work IRL. Give me a real Synthi and I'll make a terrible racket that no-one would want to hear. The Arturia experience gives the user a feeling of mastery without the need to strive for it. For some this is precisely what they want.

[functionform]

Ah, wonderful.

[Harry_HH]

Ah, wonderful.

[Spirit2017]

Arturia its time for additive emulations like the Kawai K5000 I have enough of nothing sounding synths!

[AnX]

ok, so here they are.

bloody hell, that was fast

thanks very much, i will listen after work in ye olde studio

[WolfKay]

Arturia its time for additive emulations like the Kawai K5000

+ 1000

[Teksonik]

Filter fall.....sorry I didn't have time to figure out how to reproduce the horrid background noise of the Synthi.......

Filter Fall 2

Filter Fall 1

[Gamma-UT]

Does playing a Flight Simulator qualify you to fly a plane?
It can certainly help you learn but without logging hours in a metal tube suspended in air focused on avoiding fiery death you ain't flying!

So, using real analogue synths is hours of mindnumbing boredom punctuated by moments of fear? OK, good to know. Not sure where the fear comes in with synths but, hey ho, YMMV.

[vurt]

Does playing a Flight Simulator qualify you to fly a plane?
It can certainly help you learn but without logging hours in a metal tube suspended in air focused on avoiding fiery death you ain't flying!

So, using real analogue synths is hours of mindnumbing boredom punctuated by moments of fear? OK, good to know. Not sure where the fear comes in with synths but, hey ho, YMMV.

you've clearly never played outdoor gigs in thunderstorms!

[Gamma-UT]

you've clearly never played outdoor gigs in thunderstorms!

It's in my rider. No thunderstorms. Or brown M&Ms.

[vurt]

your management team is clearly better than mine!
im lucky if i get tap water or toilet roll