Changing to Linux for music making

[dellboy]

Windows licence embedded in the bios.

The bios has nothing to do with the Windows license. That Windows auto activates has to do with preinstallations.

I have an HP desktop and two Lenovo laptops, and the licence is embedded in the bios on all of them. Google it, or read the link..........

"Digital license: A method to activate Windows 11 that does not require you to enter a product key. The digital license is provided by Microsoft and injected into the system BIOS. This can also be called a digital entitlement."

https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/i ... 4987725-16

[audiojunkie]

@audiojunkie -- It's okay, man. Linux is safe. People around the world are keeping an eye on things.

Also, regarding sleeping arrangements: do you want the attic or basement tonight? I'll take the other without objection.

….um. Thanks?

My parents kept me in the basement for a few years, so I'll just go with that, if you don't mind. Plus, "It has to be damp."

[Tiles]

Windows licence embedded in the bios.

The bios has nothing to do with the Windows license. That Windows auto activates has to do with preinstallations.

I have an HP desktop and two Lenovo laptops, and the licence is embedded in the bios on all of them. Google it, or read the link..........

"Digital license: A method to activate Windows 11 that does not require you to enter a product key. The digital license is provided by Microsoft and injected into the system BIOS. This can also be called a digital entitlement."

https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/i ... 4987725-16

Wow, you are indeed right. I never heard about this before. You really never stop learning. Thank you

[audiojunkie]

Windows licence embedded in the bios.

The bios has nothing to do with the Windows license. That Windows auto activates has to do with preinstallations.

I have an HP desktop and two Lenovo laptops, and the licence is embedded in the bios on all of them. Google it, or read the link..........

"Digital license: A method to activate Windows 11 that does not require you to enter a product key. The digital license is provided by Microsoft and injected into the system BIOS. This can also be called a digital entitlement."

https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/i ... 4987725-16

I've been working in IT for the last 30 years. I don't know if Dell does it anymore, but when we last used dells at my job (about 3 years ago), they did this as well. I don't know if it is stored in the BIOS, or in the TPM, but I know that for many of the companies that produce complete turn-key systems, they have it stored on the motherboard somewhere. So, I guess that it isn't too unusual of an occurrence.

[mjolnir]

I always wondered if I was messing anything up when I deleted the BIOS keys (it didn't matter once Linux was installed) LOL

[bulevardi]

Erm…just how old is this computer and where did you get it?! Microsoft hasn’t shipped physical DVD-ROM disc media in years.

So you work at Microsoft to know what they actually ship?
I made a photo of the dvd I have here, Windows 11, so it can't be older than 2021.
It's printed in Dutch language for our specific tiny regional market. But it exists.
I suppose the large part is distributed or sold via download links, but apparently there is a target audience (specific companies or shops I dunno) for who they distribute dvd's.

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Argh... a quick search on Amazon shows Windows 11 dvd's are even available via the regular market right now as we speak. Why was I even trying to prove evidence :
https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Wind%D ... r=8-1&th=1

[planetearth]

Erm…just how old is this computer and where did you get it?! Microsoft hasn’t shipped physical DVD-ROM disc media in years.

So you work at Microsoft to know what they actually ship?
I made a photo of the dvd I have here, Windows 11, so it can't be older than 2021.
It's printed in Dutch language for our specific tiny regional market. But it exists.
I suppose the large part is distributed or sold via download links, but apparently there is a target audience (specific companies or shops I dunno) for who they distribute dvd's.
1000008357.jpg

Argh... a quick search on Amazon shows Windows 11 dvd's are even available via the regular market right now as we speak. Why was I even trying to prove evidence :
https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Wind%D ... r=8-1&th=1

I never suggested I worked at Microsoft. But the fact is that Microsoft hasn't provided Windows installation discs with new computers in years (which is the context of what we were talking about with your computer). Most new computers now don't even have DVD-ROM drives, and any Windows restoration software is usually included on a partition of the hard drive (as it has been, going back to before Windows 7).

Steve

[bulevardi]

But the fact is that Microsoft hasn't provided Windows installation discs with new computers in years (which is the context of what we were talking about with your computer).

That's not the fact apparently.
If Microsoft doesn't provide these discs, how do I explain that I ended up with a dvd of their recent Windows 11 when buying a new computer lately? It's not distributed by another company...

[dellboy]

But the fact is that Microsoft hasn't provided Windows installation discs with new computers in years (which is the context of what we were talking about with your computer).

That's not the fact apparently.
If Microsoft doesn't provide these discs, how do I explain that I ended up with a dvd of their recent Windows 11 when buying a new computer lately? It's not distributed by another company...

Did the DVD come with a licence product key? The key is the important part.

If it did, you can discard the DVD and download the latest Win 11 iso from Microsoft and install it and enter the product key when prompted.

[planetearth]

But the fact is that Microsoft hasn't provided Windows installation discs with new computers in years (which is the context of what we were talking about with your computer).

That's not the fact apparently.
If Microsoft doesn't provide these discs, how do I explain that I ended up with a dvd of their recent Windows 11 when buying a new computer lately? It's not distributed by another company...

In the US, the UK, and several other parts of the world, and for the major computer manufacturers (Apple excluded, obviously), Windows is provided on a partition of the storage device (SSD or HD). If you bought a custom-made computer from a "mom and pop shop", then they may have a different licensing relationship with Microsoft—especially if the computer originally shipped with Windows 10 with a free upgrade to Windows 11 when it came out. But if your computer didn't come with a DVD-ROM drive, the disc is of no use to you, anyway; only the license key is.

But none of this matters. Absolutely none of this has any bearing on or helps you with your Guitar Rig/Linux issue at all. That's all I (and others here) was trying to do.

Good luck with it.

Steve

[mjolnir]

sometimes computer OSes are modified by the resellers and they often do the management of the Windows registration stuff, including the DVD's.
so the computer maybe DID come with a DVD, but the resellers kept it or threw it away while they repackaged the system for selling. That's how it used to be anyhow around some parts of the USA

[planetearth]

sometimes computer OSes are modified by the resellers and they often do the management of the Windows registration stuff, including the DVD's.
so the computer maybe DID come with a DVD, but the resellers kept it or threw it away while they repackaged the system for selling. That's how it used to be anyhow around some parts of the USA

True. But without an optical drive, that DVD is still not much use.

And over my last 25+ years in IT, I've seen more shady small-time computer resellers bundle an OS disc or other software that wasn't even for that computer, or that was for a different region of the world, or that was just a copy of an original disc. Waaaayyy too many of these bastards got away with this stuff in the '90s and '00s because the customer never bothered to look at the disc, or just took the salesman's word for it that it was legitimate. I'm not suggesting that's what happened in the OP's case, however.

Steve

[mjolnir]

ah, ok. you're right about the lack of DVD-ROM drives, that's for sure.
i had to buy an external DVD drive for my laptop. it always makes me wonder.
the office supply stores still sell a lot of programs and program suites on DVD, so it's odd not to have those anymore.
but then again, the DVD drive that I have, it works fine outta the box, but I hardly ever use it.
but I might start using it to watch movies from the local library.

[bulevardi]

Did the DVD come with a licence product key? The key is the important part.

If it did, you can discard the DVD and download the latest Win 11 iso from Microsoft and install it and enter the product key when prompted.

I checked, it's a product key indeed.
Thank god I've got a spare pc or dual boot to download the iso.
Otherwise, if it's the only one you have, you're stuck too.
Will check later on how to fix that BSOD, it's not my priority right now.

But none of this matters. Absolutely none of this has any bearing on or helps you with your Guitar Rig/Linux issue at all. That's all I (and others here) was trying to do.

Good luck with it.

Thanks, yes indeed.

In the meantime I solved the GR problem.

I was lucky I made a back-up of my whole .wine-folder a while ago when all things worked (with all the previously installed GR7 files).
I placed the whole folder back (couple of GB) and then I could restart GR, however I received a popup that I needed to activate with my licence.
I reïnstalled Native Access 1 Legacy and could do so via that program.

So tip for Linux users: if you ever get it installed: make a back-up of your .wine-folder, as you cannot reïnstall GR a second time anymore afterwards. (you will run into a broken installation that cannot get fixed, see topic: https://community.native-instruments.co ... ent/181564 )

Back-up that Legacy exe file too, for in case it's not provided anymore in the future.
And then if someday a problem occurs, you can replace your whole .wine folder again.

[bulevardi]

Will check later on how to fix that BSOD, it's not my priority right now.

Just to let you know: I meanwhile fixed the blue screen.
It happened due to a compatible PCIe wifi card from a spare pc that I installed on my current motherboard. (the spare pc previously ran on Windows btw)

It works perfectly as it should (on Linux) already half a year.
But apparently, after exceptionally booting into Windows once recently, it seems Microsoft doesn't support it and got into blue screen mode, without telling the user what the problem was, just showing a meaningless error you just have to guess.
Without the card it just runs again.