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Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:32 am

as much control as you do over an oscillator. I fail to see your point.

safeaim · Post by **safeaim** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:38 am

So you wanna import raw osc-samples? Maybe the filter on NN-XT or NN19 might fail?

If it's really that easy.. How come people still want new synths?

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:39 am

http://www.undereternityblue.com/reason/trancegate.cmb

Not too special, but here's a combi trancegate template I made for myself earlier tonight, I just demo'd it beside Vanguard's GAT Space Wah MS and it sounds similar. I think if I really tried I could get close, I'm not sure exactly what the vanguard's TG is doing differently.

Anyway, point taken, all synths have some unique character that sets them apart. I doubt many people would be truly happy to only use Reason alone.

Reason 3 is a nice app, but not a replacement for every thing else out there (not by a long shot). But you can probably get most of the sounds you're looking for, via Combinator and sampling, and pretty easily I might add. I think one of the best reasons to use Reason is you don't need to learn 50 different UIs and ways of doing things. A few building blocks and you're off and running.

Jeremy_NSL · Post by **Jeremy_NSL** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:39 am

lucille wrote: Also, I have not been able to duplicate the vanguard trance gate sound. If anyone has a trancegate rig--
I'd be interested to hear it.

I haven't tried it, but wouldn't a Matrix wired to a mixer volume cv do the trick? Using the Matrix you could then create far more complex patterns than vanguard too. And you could do stereo gating if you use two Matrix's and two mixer channels I guess, as well.

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:51 am

I can't hear how Vanguard (an excellent synth BTW) has a better trancegate than a matrix cv'd to a synth's amp envelope

Maybe it's a character thing, but I don't hear much difference. Benefit of the doubt though. I'm not as familiar with the intimacies of trancegates or Vanguard myself.

safeaim · Post by **safeaim** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:54 am

http://privat.bluezone.no/safeaim/matrix.rns Trancegate..

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:56 am

I do think all the wires at the back of Reason give me a better idea of what is going on with my setup than some other visual displays might. Even a synth like Vanguard. I really feel like I can tell what is doing what, and definitely have control of what I'd like to change; Maybe it's because I used hardware before getting into software, like a comfort thing (though I never could have afforded all Reason's 'hardware').

raapie · Post by **raapie** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:00 am

Yes, a sample can be used as Oscillator. With the new Combi can you use custom create your own filters. Using a Vocoder as filter can sound cool too

I am always thinking when I am using a VSTis: how can I program this in Reason. You will not always get 100% accurate results, but it's fun to get very close or improve the original model or just invent something new.

Possibilities with Reason are endless. Thanks to the new Combinator you can now save very complex routings.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:05 am

FaX wrote:The YOU and YOUR in the context of that post was people in general NOT you as in John .... just wanted to clarify and I should have been clearer.
I actually wasn't refereing to you inparticular in the context of the entire post.

Ok, sorry if I snapped at you then.

kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:36 pm

True! Sampling z3ta is lame. How can i use that powerful Modulation inside z3ta??

What? Sampled every move....

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:02 pm

Sampling guitars is lame. Sampling a drumkit is lame. Sampling a trumpet is lame. In fact, f**k it, electronic music is lame all together! Anything except Frank Sinatra is shit!

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:19 pm

Acolmiztli wrote:Sampling guitars is lame. Sampling a drumkit is lame. Sampling a trumpet is lame. In fact, f**k it, electronic music is lame all together! Anything except Frank Sinatra is shit!

well said..
although summing up things is pretty lame

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:23 pm

Amplitude modulation is lame too.

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:23 pm

my horse is lame.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:26 pm

Ive got a knackered ankle at the mo'. Got a limp half the time...

Combinator reveals Reason's weakness