Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - 1.8.5 the main thread

[exmatproton]

I literally had not 1 single issue with Rapid. Awesome synth, runs awesome, smooth and great content (already, and more to come). So, with the bugs, content issues (server overload? 403..whatever), stuck notes,,,how is this better so far?

Workflow, look & feel, feature wise, mod-matrix, fx, content, soundwise, available plugin formats, manual, ...

Hmm, i am deinstalling this synth. Had 2 crashes already and so far i don't really like the workflow, look&feel and sound. Rapid is the winner here (for me that is ).

[MFXxx]

Any news on when the demo version will be released please?

Got to note, the sound bank prices are rather hefty £55. But hey that's if you want/need them.

With the bug reports, I definately want to demo before shelling out and want to make use of the current promo before I dive in

[Cinebient]

I can live with the fans for now (still think that metal api is the way to go on OSX here) but how the hell can i install the factory content and patches?
I can open it, locate it and it install it but then i just have an initial patch and no patches, wavetables, etc at all.
When closing and open it again it ask me always again about missing content.
So maybe Rapid sounds really 10 times better for now

[SLiC]

anyone tried ordering with the VAT number in?
I have put my (UK) VAT number in but it still seems to be charging VAT?

[Sampleconstruct]

The sample editor is soooo rudimentary, I was prepared after reading some stuff here but having no crossfade looping, no alternate looping, no looping function at all means, that one has to prepare every single sample of a sample map in an external editor and the results will never be as smooth - e.g. for pads and smooth textures - as having a crossfade looping function with long x-fade times (like several seconds) and adjusting the slopes of the loops.

On the positive side, the Resample-quality is quite good, could be longer when dragging in long wavs (it's only a few seconds atm, haven't measure exactly) but the sound quality is ok.

[xx JPRacer xx]

TBH I don't care if a plugin "runs ultra smoothly in 60hz"

ok I might have a solution for the Laptops with bad/old graphic cards. I could imagine an ECO mode, being turned on on the SYS page, which will have half framerate etc...

It's not a bad or old graphic card, it's the latest in a new Mac Pro.

Same here. Windows 10 PC with a nVidia GTX 970.

[xx JPRacer xx]

anyone tried ordering with the VAT number in?
I have put my (UK) VAT number in but it still seems to be charging VAT?

I'm in Canada and I don't have to pay VAT. I asked Manuel and he told me to ask shareit. I did, waiting for a reply. It's not exactly like your problem, but maybe they'll correct it for all similar one.

[Sampleconstruct]

Right clicking on a knob to add a modulator is pretty standard nowadays, so in AV everything has to be done via the matrix I guess - tedious.

[exmatproton]

I can live with the fans for now (still think that metal api is the way to go on OSX here) but how the hell can i install the factory content and patches?
I can open it, locate it and it install it but then i just have an initial patch and no patches, wavetables, etc at all.
When closing and open it again it ask me always again about missing content.
So maybe Rapid sounds really 10 times better for now

To be honest, i find Rapid's sound quality equally good. + no weirdness (bugs, sticky notes, annoying content screens). I hope Vengeance will hold the 20% sale untill they fix those bugs...i literally had 2 crashes in 5 minutes of testing

[wagtunes]

Right clicking on a knob to add a modulator is pretty standard nowadays, so in AV everything has to be done via the matrix I guess - tedious.

Actually, all you need to do is drag the modulator to the function you want to modulate, i.e. LFO1 to Filter Cutoff. A slot will automatically appear in the matrix that you can fine tune the amount of modulation to.

[Soundplex]

I literally had not 1 single issue with Rapid. Awesome synth, runs awesome, smooth and great content (already, and more to come). So, with the bugs, content issues (server overload? 403..whatever), stuck notes,,,how is this better so far?

Workflow, look & feel, feature wise, mod-matrix, fx, content, soundwise, available plugin formats, manual, ...

Hmm, i am deinstalling this synth. Had 2 crashes already and so far i don't really like the workflow, look&feel and sound. Rapid is the winner here (for me that is ).

Sure, if you like to spend money on an way overpriced bright & harsh sounding vst only product with less features and content... The only good thing with Rapid is the number of wavetable slices (I thought up to 10k!?). Didn't test how much Avenger can do. But then the lack of importing owns ruins this.

[recursive one]

bright & harsh sounding

For the record, dialing back the "treble" control in the default filter fixes that. I also thought Rapid sounds harsh, but it is capable of very pleasant "creamy" tones.

overpriced

I guess, you weren't in the Parawave's list Predictably, they alienated many people with their weird pricing policy.

[exmatproton]

I literally had not 1 single issue with Rapid. Awesome synth, runs awesome, smooth and great content (already, and more to come). So, with the bugs, content issues (server overload? 403..whatever), stuck notes,,,how is this better so far?

Workflow, look & feel, feature wise, mod-matrix, fx, content, soundwise, available plugin formats, manual, ...

Hmm, i am deinstalling this synth. Had 2 crashes already and so far i don't really like the workflow, look&feel and sound. Rapid is the winner here (for me that is ).

Sure, if you like to spend money on an way overpriced bright & harsh sounding vst only product with less features and content... The only good thing with Rapid is the number of wavetable slices (I thought up to 10k!?). Didn't test how much Avenger can do. But then the lack of importing owns ruins this.

Let's agree to disagree here. In the end they are made to fit different people, i am sure Rapid fits me. Avenger isn't (like, at all). "The only good thing....." <-- that is a very coloured statement. I can't take that serious. The filters, sequencer, arp, max poly are awesome (avenger does only 64 voices max?? wtf?)

[exmatproton]

bright & harsh sounding

For the record, dialing back the "treble" control in the default filter fixes that. I also thought Rapid sounds harsh, but it is capable of very pleasant "creamy" tones.

I agree completely. I find that the vst sounds very rich. The tonal controls are great.

[Soundplex]

overpriced

I guess, you weren't in the Parawave's list Predictably, they alienated many people with their weird pricing policy.

I was but I declined because I think this a weird and unfair strategy to other customers And even if I would have used the discount, the product is still overpriced to all others Of course I also wanted to wait for the Avenger demo since the rapid discount was more a "buy it now before Avenger got released"-worry discount imo.