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EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:29 pm

Yes, dark skin was added in 1.7.0 release. It's also currently being improved in many ways.

garliccorgi · Post by **garliccorgi** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:36 pm

layzer wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:45 am
esaruoho wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:28 am
layzer wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:25 pm here is a set of 32 morphing WT's i created using single cycle PPG waveforms.
the 3rd installment of custom layzer wavetables for Surge.
enjoy!
https://www.sendspace.com/file/8u45fc
thanks for posting! will check it out
since there are based on ppg, i guess waldorf will have our heads if they are added into the surge 3rd party wavetable library, so i guess these will need to be kept separate. or WDYT?
these are not like the ensoniq vfx wavetables which are very close replicas of the original transwaves. these are mangled ppg waveforms not even distinguishable as such. its like
some author getting upset because the phrase "once upon a time was" is in his book and
it is written "upon a time once was" in mine.

Out of curiosity anyone try remaking ppg patches with these? I'm sure it's not gonna be 1:1 but I can just reach for surge as a handy to recreate some of those sounds it would be neat

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:44 pm

In order to get some of the PPG grit, you should use the Window oscillator which doesn't smoothly interpolate waveforms (PPG didn't either), and use the last window available (Rectangular).

Gone soft · Post by **Gone soft** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:39 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:44 pm In order to get some of the PPG grit, you should use the Window oscillator which doesn't smoothly interpolate waveforms (PPG didn't either), and use the last window available (Rectangular).

Wouldn't the s&h filter with full keytracking as filter 1 also help towards a more authentic PPG sound? Or did I misunderstand or misremember that part?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:47 pm

Or waveshaper in Digital mode.

Gone soft · Post by **Gone soft** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:58 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:47 pm Or waveshaper in Digital mode.

Ah, need to get more familiar with the waveshapers digital mode I see. Can't find much about it in the manual. Always assumed it was more of a bit reduction thingy and never got sure about excactly how drive affected the whole thing and what to expect with different input - even after experimenting a bit. Perhaps I should have been more patient and scientific about it, like comparing with and without and with different settings with oscilloscope and frequency analysers and taking notes etc.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:04 pm

It is bit reduction indeed. You don't really need to reduce the sample rate - PPG Wave's DACs actually had (variable) sample rate up to like 50 KHz or something like that!

Gone soft · Post by **Gone soft** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:43 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:04 pm It is bit reduction indeed. You don't really need to reduce the sample rate - PPG Wave's DACs actually had (variable) sample rate up to like 50 KHz or something like that!

But wasn't the variable sample rate keytracked? That's why I was thinking of keytracked s&h filtering to recreate a more authentic sound.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:12 pm

In practice it does seem like it was keytracked, even though that's a roundabout method of saying "variable sample rate DAC"

This is how you GOT the different pitches - by simply clocking the DACs differently for each individual key (+tuning offsets between oscillators etc.)

Surge's wavetable oscillator emulates this already (but window oscillator doesn't, AFAIK).

The Nerdy Music Guy · Post by **The Nerdy Music Guy** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:10 pm

Surge is a really great synth and people should use it more. That's all I wanted to say.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:18 pm

It is indeed! I'm using it to teach my students synthesis at the moment. Yeah, a bit of "going in the deep end first" kind of scenario but because we have so many different things to explore and Surge basically "does it all" it's an amazing opportunity for the kids to learn.

The Nerdy Music Guy · Post by **The Nerdy Music Guy** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:19 pm

That's awesome! I actually think it's really great for that.

Shabdahbriah · Post by **Shabdahbriah** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:38 pm

ENV1 wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:44 pm As you can see on the screenshot below, the font that is used by the 'label text' definitions totally sucks. (Must be Verdana or Tahoma or something.)

What IS the text used for 'Oscillators', please?

4-FONT_surge_oscbit.png

The Nerdy Music Guy · Post by **The Nerdy Music Guy** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:39 pm

Surge currently uses Lato for everything and it's sadly not that easy to change that.

The Nerdy Music Guy · Post by **The Nerdy Music Guy** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:31 pm

Here is a thing I made with just Surge (including the "drums"), Valhalla Delay and VintageVerb, Ableton's stock EQ and compressor and some LoudMax for a bit of limiting:

https://soundcloud.com/user-589036812-2 ... ge-2237-ad

It's a great synth!

Vember Audio Surge is now open-source