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om · Post by om » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:26 am

Aside from one individuals criticisms, the main point of the discussion has been a healthy suggestion that his approach may be scaring off potential customers as opposed to gaining them.

So you would like for him to conform to your recommendation?

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:29 am

om wrote:
Aside from one individuals criticisms, the main point of the discussion has been a healthy suggestion that his approach may be scaring off potential customers as opposed to gaining them.
So you would like for him to conform to your recommendation?

You seem to be stuck on the word conform, but you have never said exactly what you think he's not conforming to.

At least you are no longer suggesting his method is unique and creative, as stated before it does "conform" to marketing tactics normally associated with scams.

Now a new exercise for you... try grasping other words, like "suggestion."

Tonebldr · Post by **Tonebldr** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:29 pm

blortblort wrote:This install went smooth as silk and the fx that you have provided are stellar. Best sounding spring verb on a computer I've ever heard.

Thanks blortblort! Glad you like them...

I think the spring reverb turned out very, very lifelike. After I created them, I had the hardware on one send, and the Nebula programs on another send. I matched the input/output perfectly and watched the meters bounce in perfect synchronicity. With a static impulse, that could not occur. It's a similar concept to multisampled acoustic drums or piano, vs one sample. The dynamic changes are captured.

I very much appreciate both views regarding the site. It's unfortunate that some people have memories or experiences that associate the site with "scams". I personally chose it because I wanted to convey the message without making people click through multiple pages. I also have purchased books and training from similar sites that have been amazing, so I don't have a similar association.

However, it is ultimately my responsibility to communicate in a manner that people can both comprehend and trust.

I have no intention of removing the "only 997" copies sold. I'm already in the game with this one, and the promise has been made. I don't see it as a "false scarcity"... I know exactly how many copies have been sold and when it hits 997, the page will only say "Thank You. Sold Out".

There are many reasons for the number, but none of them have to do with a marketing strategy. I do want people to have something cool and "unique", like I said. Also, the FX package was always a planned addition. The Nebula creator, Giancarlo, was very, very kind in allowing me to include a free version of his software with this library. I didn't want to overwhelm his site with endless support requests, because he is very busy. Finally, I wanted a number of people I could serve if any support was needed.

I dread going to write another site... I much prefer sampling and creating the new free content over the last month to give away. That's where my passion is.

There are now 1,820+ samples in the collection, plus reverbs and filters.

In addition to the 100+ free sounds at http://www.drivenmachinedrums.com, I've also released more drums via this forum:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/onyyyyzow ... 115BNS.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/file/z2gnym5ziz1/DMD-EMB.zip

Here is a new free offering. I call it FUCD.
(F'd Up Compressor Drums)

http://www.mediafire.com/file/tmmzic4vzmh/FUCD.zip

I bought a vintage compressor, rather cheap, off Ebay. Been looking for this model for a while. Luckily the masses don't really know about it, otherwise the price would be 2-3 times what it is now. It's wicked on electronic drums.

Unfortunately (or so I thought), after testing, I discovered one channel is really jacked up. It's unusable as a stereo buss compressor. BUT, crazily, the malfunction can sound awesome. It's not consistent at all... I have to trigger a drum 10-12 times to get the error to occur. One slight knob shift throws it off. But, when it does happen, it's pretty snappy.

Check it out:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/tmmzic4vzmh/FUCD.zip

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:19 am

Tonebldr, for the record... I hope you sell all 997. I might even be one of the 997 purchasers, but just need a serious chance to playback the samples you've made available.

Anyway, best of luck and congrats on all the rave reviews so far!

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:04 am

hey man, is there a purchase option for paypal? i will not buy with shareit. paypal i will though

lazerkind · Post by **lazerkind** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:03 am

Cool,Thanks for the extra content.

Downloading the FX will take a while for my slow connection but I'm sure it will be worth it. You seem to have a good set of ears and skills to match.
Cheers!
//L

states · Post by **states** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:35 am

just upgraded to nebula3 which works so much better on m system and, boy! these spring verbs are the best i've ever experienced on a computer !!! thank you so much for these freebies !

Tonebldr · Post by **Tonebldr** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:35 pm

Thanks for the kind words and support elxicano and lazerkind.

states wrote:just upgraded to nebula3 which works so much better on m system and, boy! these spring verbs are the best i've ever experienced on a computer !!! thank you so much for these freebies !

Awesome! It's good to hear you are up and going.

I think the Demetri RVRB turned out really well. The actual hardware unit is one of the best spring reverbs ever. It's real studio quality, low noise, XLR in-out. That made for nice sampling. They retail for about $700...

While I love hardware, I think the included Nebula player and library have another element of convenience. First, if you are 100% in the box, there's no need to pass a generation through the A/D convertors. Second, it's much faster to scan through the 10 possibilities than re-patch and route with the hardware. Third, the hardware only has two mono inputs of two lengths. I've captured the programs so you can have a short or long on both channels, if desired.

The hardware is still awesome to have, especially if you are tracking guitar in a studio and need 0 latency or performing live.

I'm growing more fond of dub in my older age, so I've been on a spring reverb hunt lately. It's a new fetish... that and real nice analogue delays. Hopefully some day I win the lotto and can get two of these for stereo operation:

http://www.echomatic.co.uk/#/echomatic- ... 4519474635

Those, some nice spring, and a good envelope follower/filter on some synths would be magic.

cheers-

rexlapin · Post by **rexlapin** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:41 pm

Nathaniel,
I seem to recall that for dub a lot of producers favored the
Grampians. (I think Pete Townsend had some too.)
Just found a link here:
http://www.thewho.net/whotabs/reverb.htm
Best,
Scott

xybre · Post by **xybre** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:37 am

Btw, I didn't have any problems downloading the expansion. I've been using your drums in all of my productions since I got it.

I almost feel like it was made for me, since I'm the crazy dude who likes overdriven and f**ked up drums.

Unfortunately, I've been busy or sick the past two weeks and haven't been useful in the studio. I feel a heavy brap1 session coming up though.

I think my only request are some good "wash" cymbals useful for revere effects and some sharp thick cymbal crashes. I can make my own using combinations of time stretching, layers, reverb, compression, and/or distortion. They sound good in a mix, but I figure your equipment might be able to generate some of a different sort.

1. Brap: To gather together, hook-up electronic instruments, get f**ked up and record.

om · Post by om » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:58 am

Now a new exercise for you... try grasping other words, like "suggestion."

Thanks for the suggestion. I might recommend you re-read my post. I felt like it was a valid point and I am beginning the wonder if you understood my point. Also, there's no need to get defensive. I am not the enemy.
I didn't intend for my post to communicate that his marketing was creative and on re-reading it I feel certain that it doesn't suggest that.

For you re-consideration.

Lux Delux · Post by **Lux Delux** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:56 am

I recall there were some recommended Nebula settings before usage?

Can't seem to find them anywhere, or have I gone bananas

Great library btw

core · Post by **core** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:36 am

From the manual:

Go to MAST Page
Select MODE: 0 Simple (so 0 simple is highlighted)
Turn the 2nd knob until 1 GURU appears
Now two columns of settings will appear.
With your mouse, select the 2ND ROW, 4th Down
L FREQD:
Change the value to 8.5 seconds
Press SAVE
Upper Right Hand Corner of Nebula Interface (you only have to do this once)

Lux Delux · Post by **Lux Delux** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:47 am

Yikes, dunno how I missed it, thanks

Tonebldr · Post by **Tonebldr** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:39 pm

Lux Delux wrote:Yikes, dunno how I missed it, thanks

Make sure you load the Nebula Free Reverb DLL when implementing
these directions. That DLL is higher quality and allows for the longer
setting. This is required for the decay length of the spring reverbs.

best,

Nathaniel

(SOLD OUT) DRIVEN MACHINE DRUMS: 22 Drum Machines/Synths, 14 Anlg Processors