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Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:52 pm

PietW. wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:i'm confused: you can load waves, but there is no wavetable editor? i had a Microwave II but could not get a editor to work with it, and i own Kubik...what exactly can one do and not do with the PPG as far as user waves? i'd try myself but it's taking a very long time to d/l the vst so i'm curious if i should cancel...

thanks...
Aaaaaaah, please not the editor thing again. There was almost a whole thread about this and NO, at V1.0 there is no wavetable editor.

BTW did anyone notice that there are 120 wavetables now?? Try those first, load a sample from the Waveterm library or use your own samples...

Why not. Maybe Waldorf noted what the users want

Here is what i added to the Bugtracker (already mentioned here several times...) for the Beta test, already one month ago, this time as full text:

"In a future update (maybe v1.5 or up) it would be nice to be able to create your own wavetables, either in the plugin itself or as an extra program.

This is a request which several people at KVR did since the Betatest started.

Of course this will be a bigger project so it's not done in a few days i guess..."

In the bugtracker nothing gets lost like in a forum so let's see what we'll get in the future.

Chuck E. Jesus · Post by **Chuck E. Jesus** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:58 pm

Ingonator wrote:

bad day?

perhaps i didn't ask the question correctly: i assume there are slots to load user waves, does PPG do interpolation between wave slots like Kubik? sorry, i didn't see this answered in what i've read so far...

EDIT: it's done loading so i'll probably figure it out myself, thanks for your time...

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:09 pm

Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
bad day?

perhaps i didn't ask the question correctly: i assume there are slots to load user waves, does PPG do interpolation between wave slots like Kubik? sorry, i didn't see this answered in what i've read so far...

EDIT: it's done loading so i'll probably figure it out myself, thanks for your time...

Sorry, it was nothing personal. this question comes up so often that i'm a bit tired about it...
Like written in my last post an official request for an editor was added one month ago. That's all i could do for the moment and like i already told countless times there is so much to explore even without a wavetable editor.

Buka · Post by **Buka** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:12 pm

Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
bad day?

perhaps i didn't ask the question correctly: i assume there are slots to load user waves, does PPG do interpolation between wave slots like Kubik? sorry, i didn't see this answered in what i've read so far...

EDIT: it's done loading so i'll probably figure it out myself, thanks for your time...

download the damn thing and read the manual mate

u have a 8 time multitimbral synth and so u can load 8 samples and spread them over the keyboard...thats all, no editing, no nothing (except for sample start, end, loop, etc)

Chuck E. Jesus · Post by **Chuck E. Jesus** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:35 pm

Buka wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
bad day?

perhaps i didn't ask the question correctly: i assume there are slots to load user waves, does PPG do interpolation between wave slots like Kubik? sorry, i didn't see this answered in what i've read so far...

EDIT: it's done loading so i'll probably figure it out myself, thanks for your time...
download the damn thing and read the manual mate
u have a 8 time multitimbral synth and so u can load 8 samples and spread them over the keyboard...thats all, no editing, no nothing (except for sample start, end, loop, etc)

sorry, i just didn't understand how one could load a sample w/o a wavetable editor...but the folder wouldn't extract, so i'll just use Kubik...

Buka · Post by **Buka** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:57 pm

Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
Buka wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
bad day?

perhaps i didn't ask the question correctly: i assume there are slots to load user waves, does PPG do interpolation between wave slots like Kubik? sorry, i didn't see this answered in what i've read so far...

EDIT: it's done loading so i'll probably figure it out myself, thanks for your time...
download the damn thing and read the manual mate
u have a 8 time multitimbral synth and so u can load 8 samples and spread them over the keyboard...thats all, no editing, no nothing (except for sample start, end, loop, etc)
sorry, i just didn't understand how one could load a sample w/o a wavetable editor...but the folder wouldn't extract, so i'll just use Kubik...

sure do that but dont give up the 3.v just jet...its a realy nice sounding synth, especialy if u know how to program it

dhalfen · Post by **dhalfen** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:52 am

Ahhh, YESSSSSSS:

http://www.waldorfmusic-shop.de/epages/ ... ID=4905301

99.00€ is perfect to me!!!

THANK YOU very much.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:06 am

dhalfen wrote:Ahhh, YESSSSSSS:

http://www.waldorfmusic-shop.de/epages/ ... ID=4905301

99.00€ is perfect to me!!!

THANK YOU very much.

It's written that this is the upgrade for owner of the PPG 2.V. This should mean it's valid for Waldor edition owners too but i'm not sure.

I added a reply at the PPG Beta forum about this.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:10 am

Chuck E. Jesus wrote:[
sorry, i just didn't understand how one could load a sample w/o a wavetable editor...but the folder wouldn't extract, so i'll just use Kubik...

Wait, did i understand some things wrong? Maybe...

Some questions + hints for you:

- What does it mean the folder doesn't extract?
- Which OS do you use?
- Samples are called "Transients" in the PPG and you could load them in several ways in the GUI, also by drag & drop to the current multi part
- the ability to load samples/transients and having a wavetable editor is a totally different thing IMO
- you could also import Waveterm B image files in .WTB format, the included Waveterm B library has that format too

Here is a reply from Achim Gratz ("ASSI", "Stromeko") to my request in the Bugtracker:
"Just read Hermann Seib's description of the WTB disk format and make your own WTB disks for importing into the PPG 3.V — it doesn't get much easier than that"

I still don't know how this should help with the wavetables but the Waveterm C software from Hermann Seib is here:
http://www.hermannseib.com/waveterm/

http://www.hermannseib.com/english/synt ... avesim.htm
http://www.hermannseib.com/english/synt ... ibrary.htm

PS:
For those who didn't recognize some new wavetables which have an "U" at the end of their name are so called double wavetables. With those you have access to 128 instead of 64 waveforms of the standard wavetables.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:31 am

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:14 pm

Ingonator wrote:
dhalfen wrote:Ahhh, YESSSSSSS:

http://www.waldorfmusic-shop.de/epages/ ... ID=4905301

99.00€ is perfect to me!!!

THANK YOU very much.
It's written that this is the upgrade for owner of the PPG 2.V. This should mean it's valid for Waldor edition owners too but i'm not sure.

I added a reply at the PPG Beta forum about this.

After i asked Haibin of the Waldorf Online Shop the text is slightly changed now. Of course the upgrade is also available for Users of the Waldorf Edition:

http://www.waldorfmusic-shop.de/epages/ ... D=18661114

BTW there is some other news in the Online Shop too:

Analog vs Digital for Blofeld

UPDATE:
I just found that there is no "Buy" button for the PPG Wave 3.V Upgrade version. Maybe this will be added together with the full version.

draft14 · Post by **draft14** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:46 pm

Will PPG Wave 3.V have the 64bit native support?

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:21 pm

dhalfen wrote:Ahhh, YESSSSSSS:

http://www.waldorfmusic-shop.de/epages/ ... ID=4905301

99.00€ is perfect to me!!!

THANK YOU very much.

ohohoh! But i got Waldorf edition LE within the Largo synth. Can i still upgrade?! And how i will do this?

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:42 pm

Igro wrote:
dhalfen wrote:Ahhh, YESSSSSSS:

http://www.waldorfmusic-shop.de/epages/ ... ID=4905301

99.00€ is perfect to me!!!

THANK YOU very much.
ohohoh! But i got Waldorf edition LE within the Largo synth. Can i still upgrade?! And how i will do this?

Hello Igro, i don't know if the LE version will qualify but my guess is no. Not sure about the upgrade procedure.
I just collected some questions and my own remarks and sent them to Haibin from the Waldorf Online Shop.

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:57 pm

Ingonator wrote:
Igro wrote:
dhalfen wrote:Ahhh, YESSSSSSS:

http://www.waldorfmusic-shop.de/epages/ ... ID=4905301

99.00€ is perfect to me!!!

THANK YOU very much.
ohohoh! But i got Waldorf edition LE within the Largo synth. Can i still upgrade?! And how i will do this?
Hello Igro, i don't know if the LE version will qualify but my guess is no. Not sure about the upgrade procedure.
I just collected some questions and my own remarks and sent them to Haibin from the Waldorf Online Shop.

Hi Ingo! I'm asking because i found this at the website:

Owners of all versions of PPG Wave 2.V, including the LE version and the Waldorf Edition, are eligible for this upgrade

Waldorf PPG Wave 3.V Released- Demo Available (eLicenser)