Any word on Revalver 4 release?

[firepile]

So, do we need some kind of dongle?
1:04 omward.

You can use pretty much ANY USB key as your dongle, or most other USB devices the program will recognize, like your USB sound card, USB mouse, etc.

Pretty cool if you ask me.

Yeah that's pretty cool.

What's cool about that? What happens if you lose it, or it gets damaged and can't be used?

[frankz00]

So, do we need some kind of dongle?
1:04 omward.

You can use pretty much ANY USB key as your dongle, or most other USB devices the program will recognize, like your USB sound card, USB mouse, etc.

Pretty cool if you ask me.

Yeah that's pretty cool.

What's cool about that? What happens if you lose it, or it gets damaged and can't be used?

Nothing.

I prefer the iLok/Waves multifaceted approach where if I am going to have to use a dongle, a movable software version is available. The only thing I don't like about theirs is that they don't have a mechanism to reclaim your key whenever you need to. It's just once a year. That part sucks.

I was also turned off by the "Amp Store" approach. I've already got that with IK. No interest in another. I'm sticking with MK.III.

[napishu]

What's cool about that? What happens if you lose it, or it gets damaged and can't be used?

You know that there is Peavey support? So go and ask them

[AC222]

So, do we need some kind of dongle?
1:04 omward.

You can use pretty much ANY USB key as your dongle, or most other USB devices the program will recognize, like your USB sound card, USB mouse, etc.

Pretty cool if you ask me.

Yeah that's pretty cool.

What's cool about that? What happens if you lose it, or it gets damaged and can't be used?

There's nothing cool about it. In fact, it's very lame. I can kind of understand the Ilok thing with developers like Exponential Audio. Maybe a little different for individual developers to create copy protection but the thing is that Peavey had an actual licensing thing going in prior versions and now forcing people onto a dongle is silly. At least companies like Waves smartened up and got their own licensing system that doesn't force you to keep a pecker hanging out of your computer just to use the product that you paid for and own.

I hope Peavey sees this and takes it back to management, especially the part where we already have posters that are passing on whatever you have to offer because of a silly decision to change your copy protection system unnecessarily to something that is both inconvenient and annoying.

Please fix immediately.

[AC222]

Interesting indeed. I like the Amplitube version better there. Not really fair, because one is a JCM900, and the other is a Silver Jubilee, but nonetheless.

I prefer the IK version as well. It has more body like a real amp. The poster of the yt video raved about the dynamics but it kind of reminds me of how Scuffham stuff has a more dynamic response but when I play through Overloud Th2 it sounds more organic, less thin, and actually sounds more like a real amp. In fairness as you stated, the JCM 900 is not exactly known for it's tube breakup. It was a different design than 800 and a lot of critics of the JCM 900 point out that the distortion is more harsh than any of the Marshall models that came before.

[hibidy]

Off for another round.

Btw, I like the orange, but don't care for the marshall. I like the high gain stuff alright. It's not the game changer.

@license: I keep all of my waves on a usb stick so I don't really care.

[Lemmy Koopa]

Hype is not as big as before. I might just need to work on tweaking in Revalver again. I'm used to Guitar Rig lately and I set up a pretty explosive sound on the 6505 model it has.

Messing with the voicing profiling stuff some more and it seems more useful for the post-amp EQing stuff. For the instrument profiling, I suppose it works best if you use the closest pickup for the picking you're profiling.

[A3ntar]

There's nothing cool about it. In fact, it's very lame. I can kind of understand the Ilok thing with developers like Exponential Audio. Maybe a little different for individual developers to create copy protection but the thing is that Peavey had an actual licensing thing going in prior versions and now forcing people onto a dongle is silly. At least companies like Waves smartened up and got their own licensing system that doesn't force you to keep a pecker hanging out of your computer just to use the product that you paid for and own.

I hope Peavey sees this and takes it back to management, especially the part where we already have posters that are passing on whatever you have to offer because of a silly decision to change your copy protection system unnecessarily to something that is both inconvenient and annoying.

Please fix immediately.

Given a choice between the old and the new protection I would of course prefer the dongle-less version.

But given the choice between iLok and Peavey's new protection, I prefer new Peavey's approach by far!

I now am using my USB sound card as my dongle, the same sound card I have to plug in *anyways* to make my music, and thus I do not need to change my habits or carry any extra piece of hardware.

Now THAT is what's cool about it.

[AC222]

There's nothing cool about it. In fact, it's very lame. I can kind of understand the Ilok thing with developers like Exponential Audio. Maybe a little different for individual developers to create copy protection but the thing is that Peavey had an actual licensing thing going in prior versions and now forcing people onto a dongle is silly. At least companies like Waves smartened up and got their own licensing system that doesn't force you to keep a pecker hanging out of your computer just to use the product that you paid for and own.

I hope Peavey sees this and takes it back to management, especially the part where we already have posters that are passing on whatever you have to offer because of a silly decision to change your copy protection system unnecessarily to something that is both inconvenient and annoying.

Please fix immediately.

Given a choice between the old and the new protection I would of course prefer the dongle-less version.

But given the choice between iLok and Peavey's new protection, I prefer new Peavey's approach by far!

I now am using my USB sound card as my dongle, the same sound card I have to plug in *anyways* to make my music, and thus I do not need to change my habits or carry any extra piece of hardware.

Now THAT is what's cool about it.

Yeah, but the whole point is that Peavey has the choice. As you mentioned, the old protection system is better. They made the choice to force you to use a dongle. wtf Peavey???

[Mudcat007]

A bit bummed that it appears you can only access one mic a a time on a cabinet, or am I missing something? I like the way Amplitube let's you blend a couple of close mics as well as room mics.

[a123321]

Yeah, but the whole point is that Peavey has the choice. As you mentioned, the old protection system is better. They made the choice to force you to use a dongle. wtf Peavey???

Better in which way? In fact a dongless solution is a secret dongle solution. Dongless drm is locked to your hardware like HDD serial, HDD mbr (like on Scuffham), Mac Adress, OS integrity (part of revalver Mk III series) ...etc. It means you have to carry these with you or request a new limited number license ( 2 in a month for revalver MK III series, 1 in a year for some). With the new scheme you have the ability to carry a nano size usb device and use in every computer you have access to. You remove the easiest and lighest hardware instead of a fixed or heavy one.

A bit bummed that it appears you can only access one mic a a time on a cabinet, or am I missing something? I like the way Amplitube let's you blend a couple of close mics as well as room mics.

You can use a signal splitter and put two RIR 2 modules inside. I guess more modules and sorts of cab modules will come.

[AC222]

Yeah, but the whole point is that Peavey has the choice. As you mentioned, the old protection system is better. They made the choice to force you to use a dongle. wtf Peavey???

Better in which way? In fact a dongless solution is a secret dongle solution. Dongless drm is locked to your hardware like HDD serial, HDD mbr (like on Scuffham), Mac Adress, OS integrity (part of revalver Mk III series) ...etc. It means you have to carry these with you or request a new limited number license ( 2 in a month for revalver MK III series, 1 in a year for some). With the new scheme you have the ability to carry a nano size usb device and use in every computer you have access to. You remove the easiest and lighest hardware instead of a fixed or heavy one.

A bit bummed that it appears you can only access one mic a a time on a cabinet, or am I missing something? I like the way Amplitube let's you blend a couple of close mics as well as room mics.

You can use a signal splitter and put two RIR 2 modules inside. I guess more modules and sorts of cab modules will come.

Better in that once I have my computer set up with the several computers that I do recording/mixing, I am all set once I am set up. I don't have to unplug some stupid device to get everything up and running. I don't have to use up one of my USB ports for something completely unnecessary. I don't care if you can assign it to a mouse or whatever if that's even possible. That's completely stupid to have to swap out a mouse or a USB to switch to another computer that you use frequently. I had the old Revalver on several computers set up with no problem.

[hibidy]

Was there any doubt I'd buy it?

Here was my testing. Take guitar oriented projects, a/b with what I was already using, liked R4 best

It's pretty good in a mix and you that post q is HANDY. Saves a ton of time with extra plugs for h/lp and taking out some of the mid.

Not super sold on the lead sounds persay, I like the buddah with some light eq. Can be good with a screamer.

Still not the holy grail.

[BBFG#]

Thanks for pointing out the 'dongle' lok.
Loved the demo, but I'll be removing it tomorrow.

[blueman]

Still not the holy grail.

Redesign the schematic; change the tubes; swap out the transformer

Theoretically, it's in there right? The right combination of 5-7 preamp tubes + 4 power amp tubes ought to produce that glorious, cascading saturation and power-tube girth

Well....right....in theory