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sacer · Post by **sacer** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:05 am

+ 1 for the legend and repro1

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:01 pm

EnGee wrote:
Robert Randolph wrote:
EnGee wrote:
Robert Randolph wrote:
You may think they are amazing synths or fantastic products. But unless/until you can compare them to the original, then you don't know if they are good emulations.

It's entirely possible that they are amazing synths that are not completely accurate emulations. That's even dually possible if what they are emulating aren't amazing synths. In that case, a good emulation would be a bad synth!
Another genius in logic and semantics
Do you not understand that something can be both a good product and a poor emulation?
And what the f**k this has to do with my sentence "RePro1 and The Legend are the best emulations that I have ever heard"?!!

Both are emulations right? They are synths but emulations right?

Let the German gods help you Urs, or maybe you need more, many more!

The problem is that it can be read as you saying that they're good emulations. It appears that you intend to say that they're fantastic products that happen to be emulations as well.

The former can't really be fully appreciated without experiencing the original product in depth. The latter... sure, but you phrased it very awkwardly.

I'm just trying to explain to you what the potential issue was with your statement. I think it's an interesting language snafu.

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:07 pm

electro wrote:The favorite synth of 2016 is Arturia's Synclavier V

The Synclavier V is the FM engine of the NED Synclavier.
https://www.arturia.com/synclavier-v/overview

I agree - the Arturia Synclavier is the only softsynth that managed to blow me away during this year.

For hardware - my award goes to the Pioneer Toraiz which is the coolest thing ever.

/C

electro · Post by **electro** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:18 pm

DrGonzo wrote:
electro wrote:The favorite synth of 2016 is Arturia's Synclavier V

The Synclavier V is the FM engine of the NED Synclavier.
https://www.arturia.com/synclavier-v/overview
I agree - the Arturia Synclavier is the only softsynth that managed to blow me away during this year.

For hardware - my award goes to the Pioneer Toraiz which is the coolest thing ever.

/C

Tell me about Toraiz. I assume its designed to be paired up with a Pioneer Controller. I thought Roland's DJ-808 was really well executed.

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:26 pm

electro wrote:
DrGonzo wrote:
electro wrote:The favorite synth of 2016 is Arturia's Synclavier V

The Synclavier V is the FM engine of the NED Synclavier.
https://www.arturia.com/synclavier-v/overview
I agree - the Arturia Synclavier is the only softsynth that managed to blow me away during this year.

For hardware - my award goes to the Pioneer Toraiz which is the coolest thing ever.

/C
Tell me about Toraiz. I assume its designed to be paired up with a Pioneer Controller. I thought Roland's DJ-808 was really well executed.

The workflow on the Toraiz simply kills. I've never had a piece of gear where I could create music in a way that is so incledible fluid and inspiring. Yes, in some ways it is crippled and lack many features. But even so - if Pioneer wouldn't update it once, I'm still 100 percent happy about it. Makes music making fun. You switch it on - you make music. Love it.

Octatrack & Analog Rytm - off to eBay with you

/C

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:26 pm

Robert Randolph wrote:The former can't really be fully appreciated without experiencing the original product in depth.

No, to be nitpicking about the nitpicker's proposition, one could not make that statement ever - unless one had access to all emulations ever made, and the exact synth they strive to replicate. So pretty much nobody could ever come to the opinion "these are the two best emulations I have ever heard". Ever.

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:43 pm

Urs wrote:
Robert Randolph wrote:The former can't really be fully appreciated without experiencing the original product in depth.
No, to be nitpicking about the nitpicker's proposition, one could not make that statement ever - unless one had access to all emulations ever made, and the exact synth they strive to replicate. So pretty much nobody could ever come to the opinion "these are the two best emulations I have ever heard". Ever.

Great, I agree with you and the sentiment.

Please don't confuse me trying to explain someone's position with me agreeing with it.

sfd · Post by **sfd** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:57 pm

Same as last year - Minisyn'x

Not everyone knows that this is not to be seen as a cut down version of the Syn'X 2. Minisyn'x is actually a very precise emulation of the Elka Syhnthex.

Probably most know as the synth used with Jarre's laser harp. The Synythex is also mentioned by Martin Gore, from Depeche Mode, as a favorite:

"I did use some more conventional stuff. I mean, I love my Elka Synthex. I use that on quite a few trac..."

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:04 pm

Urs wrote:
Robert Randolph wrote:The former can't really be fully appreciated without experiencing the original product in depth.
No, to be nitpicking about the nitpicker's proposition, one could not make that statement ever - unless one had access to all emulations ever made, and the exact synth they strive to replicate. So pretty much nobody could ever come to the opinion "these are the two best emulations I have ever heard". Ever.

It is not that difficult to compare the best Minimoog emulation VSTi's, there are not too many. Don't think we have to argue about Steinberg Model E being in the same class as Monark, Legend, or Diva.

And, if i may add this, that's really nitpicking, while i was simply saying that it is misleading to talk about the "best emulation ever", when you don't even own (or have ever owned) the original. I think solely the fact that you and EnGee thought i wanted to talk aynthing down (for whatever reason. I don't want to talk anything down) were the reason why my point wasn't understood.

gunark · Post by **gunark** » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:18 pm

Pulsar P900
RePro
Moog Model 15

sfd · Post by **sfd** » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:28 pm

And now - the final ...*drum roll"...... XILS-Lab - PolyKB II 2.5 !

In celebration of this final conclusion..gues what...it's currently available for ...only ...*drum roll*..... €89 !

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:19 pm

I can't remember if the U-he Hive was released 2016 or 15, but it by far my favorite synth this year.

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:58 pm

I think i can say that just really at the very end of the year since there still coming some good synths like Avenger, Predator 2.....and maybe a few others.
If i had to bet now i would say Avenger (not Icarus like i thought a while ago) but it´s too early to say

kenobi77 · Post by **kenobi77** » Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:44 pm

DrGonzo wrote: The workflow on the Toraiz simply kills. I've never had a piece of gear where I could create music in a way that is so incledible fluid and inspiring. Yes, in some ways it is crippled and lack many features. But even so - if Pioneer wouldn't update it once, I'm still 100 percent happy about it. Makes music making fun. You switch it on - you make music. Love it.

Octatrack & Analog Rytm - off to eBay with you

/C

Really

when I saw this released I wrote it off, thinking it was ill-conceived Frankenstein product thought up by the marketing department. Always nice to hear someone finding there productive workflow. Out of interest did you never really click with the Elektron gear or was the Pioneer just that good?

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:04 pm

When Avenger comes out in December, my top 5 in order will be...

1) Avenger
2) Icarus
3) Softube Modular
4) ArcSyn
5) Repro-1

The Favorite 2016 Softsynth Is...