You happy with Studio One 3?

[brian7oe]

i love everything about s1
make me like the flash

[chilly7]

I think for the first time I see mixed reactions for studio One 3.3. It's seems like it's not as stable for some. Some feel it's becoming to bloated. Where you at with it? Do you like it? If so, why not. Do you like using Notion 6 with it? How about presonus hardware integration with Studio One, you like it? Just curious about this.

I will speak only about what i dislike.

1. It Is not very stable. For converting tracks to audio and going to original state give sme pretty often crashes. ( Presonus told that is is fault of Slate Digital but at Slate Digital we cannot find a cause of crashes iether.) .
2. Mix FX engine is used at very low potantion. I do not see high end 3rd party developers joining it. At this time for alredy long time we have only one console.
3. And the main concernis: Studio One after v3 does not move foward big steps like it was with previus version.

4. Customization of GUI is not very flexible.

5. There is no very easy way to delete unused files only in Bounce folder.
6. In Studio one they added some samples, instruments (Presents XT, Mai Tai and etc)but i do not see anybody will use it who is serious about music because 3 party developers offer much better products. But Presonus could instead of that could used this time to improve the DAW itself

Studio One is still my main DAW because i use ut for things i like.
For example: sound quality, FX routing, better resolution then MIDI,ability to convert track to audio with ability to go back to original state.

I am against of:
1)Easy of use if it will compromise editing possibilities.
2)Exclusive build in instruments and effects, samples, impulses and so on in to DAW.( Because anybody who is series about music he or she makes will always use 3rd party ones because they are higher quality.) But better developer will focus their power and time on improving actual DAW.

[beatmangler443]

I think for the first time I see mixed reactions for studio One 3.3. It's seems like it's not as stable for some. Some feel it's becoming to bloated. Where you at with it? Do you like it? If so, why not. Do you like using Notion 6 with it? How about presonus hardware integration with Studio One, you like it? Just curious about this.

I will speak only about what i dislike.

1. It Is not very stable. For converting tracks to audio and going to original state give sme pretty often crashes. ( Presonus told that is is fault of Slate Digital but at Slate Digital we cannot find a cause of crashes iether.) .
2. Mix FX engine is used at very low potantion. I do not see high end 3rd party developers joining it. At this time for alredy long time we have only one console.
3. And the main concernis: Studio One after v3 does not move foward big steps like it was with previus version.

4. Customization of GUI is not very flexible.

5. There is no very easy way to delete unused files only in Bounce folder.
6. In Studio one they added some samples, instruments (Presents XT, Mai Tai and etc)but i do not see anybody will use it who is serious about music because 3 party developers offer much better products. But Presonus could instead of that could used this time to improve the DAW itself

Studio One is still my main DAW because i use ut for things i like.
For example: sound quality, FX routing, better resolution then MIDI,ability to convert track to audio with ability to go back to original state.

I am against of:
1)Easy of use if it will compromise editing possibilities.
2)Exclusive build in instruments and effects, samples, impulses and so on in to DAW.( Because anybody who is series about music he or she makes will always use 3rd party ones because they are higher quality.) But better developer will focus their power and time on improving actual DAW.

They have to balance a little bit for everybody. As far as number 2 that isn't true many use their stock plug ins. They are good. Not everybody can buy waves plug ins.

[chilly7]

I think for the first time I see mixed reactions for studio One 3.3. It's seems like it's not as stable for some. Some feel it's becoming to bloated. Where you at with it? Do you like it? If so, why not. Do you like using Notion 6 with it? How about presonus hardware integration with Studio One, you like it? Just curious about this.

I will speak only about what i dislike.

1. It Is not very stable. For converting tracks to audio and going to original state give sme pretty often crashes. ( Presonus told that is is fault of Slate Digital but at Slate Digital we cannot find a cause of crashes iether.) .
2. Mix FX engine is used at very low potantion. I do not see high end 3rd party developers joining it. At this time for alredy long time we have only one console.
3. And the main concernis: Studio One after v3 does not move foward big steps like it was with previus version.

4. Customization of GUI is not very flexible.

5. There is no very easy way to delete unused files only in Bounce folder.
6. In Studio one they added some samples, instruments (Presents XT, Mai Tai and etc)but i do not see anybody will use it who is serious about music because 3 party developers offer much better products. But Presonus could instead of that could used this time to improve the DAW itself

Studio One is still my main DAW because i use ut for things i like.
For example: sound quality, FX routing, better resolution then MIDI,ability to convert track to audio with ability to go back to original state.

I am against of:
1)Easy of use if it will compromise editing possibilities.
2)Exclusive build in instruments and effects, samples, impulses and so on in to DAW.( Because anybody who is series about music he or she makes will always use 3rd party ones because they are higher quality.) But better developer will focus their power and time on improving actual DAW.

They have to balance a little bit for everybody. As far as number 2 that isn't true many use their stock plug ins. They are good. Not everybody can buy waves plug ins.

I agree Wave plugins are expensive. I do not own them either. But even if i had money i do not think this developer is truly high end. They are about good but not high end. But i still think build in instruments, FX in DAW are usless for anybody who are serious about music. They better either reduce price and do not include them or keep the same price but make actualy the DAW more better. There are so many ways in which DAW can be improved. They better spend time on this.
I think awrybody must be at their own place because in this case the gain of work will be much bigger.
For example let DAW developers focus on DAW. Virtual Instrument developers focus on Virtual Instrument.
Because if they mix it will sucks.
The same as let trumpet player play trumpet and guitar player play guitar. But if they mix ofcause they still can make some kind of noise but it will suck.
Or in other words let people do what they can do the best.

[Robert Randolph]

2)Exclusive build in instruments and effects, samples, impulses and so on in to DAW.( Because anybody who is series about music he or she makes will always use 3rd party ones because they are higher quality.) But better developer will focus their power and time on improving actual DAW.

Development of the DAW and effects are not necessarily mutually exclusive. Programmers that are well versed in application development and in audio DSP are very rare. It's unlikely that the same person working on improvements 'to the DAW' is the guy writing the plug-ins.

There's surely some cross-over, but it's not a 1:1 coupling. Cutting plug-in development won't create a linear increase in the quality or number of DAW features developed. In fact, it could reduce it!

I suggest reading "Software Engineering Economics" or "The Mythical Man-Month". This is a common failure of thought that's covered fairly well in both books.

[Hink]

I think for the first time I see mixed reactions for studio One 3.3. It's seems like it's not as stable for some. Some feel it's becoming to bloated. Where you at with it? Do you like it? If so, why not. Do you like using Notion 6 with it? How about presonus hardware integration with Studio One, you like it? Just curious about this.

I will speak only about what i dislike.

1. It Is not very stable. For converting tracks to audio and going to original state give sme pretty often crashes. ( Presonus told that is is fault of Slate Digital but at Slate Digital we cannot find a cause of crashes iether.) .
2. Mix FX engine is used at very low potantion. I do not see high end 3rd party developers joining it. At this time for alredy long time we have only one console.
3. And the main concernis: Studio One after v3 does not move foward big steps like it was with previus version.

4. Customization of GUI is not very flexible.

5. There is no very easy way to delete unused files only in Bounce folder.
6. In Studio one they added some samples, instruments (Presents XT, Mai Tai and etc)but i do not see anybody will use it who is serious about music because 3 party developers offer much better products. But Presonus could instead of that could used this time to improve the DAW itself

Studio One is still my main DAW because i use ut for things i like.
For example: sound quality, FX routing, better resolution then MIDI,ability to convert track to audio with ability to go back to original state.

I am against of:
1)Easy of use if it will compromise editing possibilities.
2)Exclusive build in instruments and effects, samples, impulses and so on in to DAW.( Because anybody who is series about music he or she makes will always use 3rd party ones because they are higher quality.) But better developer will focus their power and time on improving actual DAW.

They have to balance a little bit for everybody. As far as number 2 that isn't true many use their stock plug ins. They are good. Not everybody can buy waves plug ins.

I agree Wave plugins are expensive. I do not own them either. But even if i had money i do not think this developer is truly high end. They are about good but not high end. But i still think build in instruments, FX in DAW are usless for anybody who are serious about music. They better either reduce price and do not include them or keep the same price but make actualy the DAW more better. There are so many ways in which DAW can be improved. They better spend time on this.
I think awrybody must be at their own place because in this case the gain of work will be much bigger.
For example let DAW developers focus on DAW. Virtual Instrument developers focus on Virtual Instrument.
Because if they mix it will sucks.
The same as let trumpet player play trumpet and guitar player play guitar. But if they mix ofcause they still can make some kind of noise but it will suck.
Or in other words let people do what they can do the best.

this may be true with S1, I dont know but I'm dont think it applies to all other DAWS. I think you'll find that many companies employ or have employed some top notch software engineers who specialty is indeed pluggins. Sascha who is no longer with Magix but designed many of their fantastic plugins comes to mind for me right away. Of course companies also obtain licensing rights to plugins as well Cakewalk plugins by Lexicon for instance. Farming out work outside of one's specialty is not only prudent but common place in many industries

[ozmuso67]

Have used S1 Pro from Version 2, now on Version 3, have been happy with it. I find it stable (I'm on a PC) and the bottom line is that I can just get songs done without any issue; for me, I can just write and record songs how I want with no impediment from the DAW. Sure, there are some minor annoyances, but nothing really that gets in my way of writing and recording. Perhaps I'd like to see some improvement in the way things display. I mean, I know S1 has support for large DPI displays, but I found that on my 2k monitor, S1 looked good but most plugins were way too small. I was hoping S1 devs could find a way to scale up plugin windows somehow. And then on my 1080p monitor I find that the S1 display is a bit large, which means fewer items on screen (fewer mix tracks for example)..

But despite a few annoyances, I just find that I can get on with the business of making music with S1. Tried FL Studio for the first time again in a long time, and I found that FL Studio had too many quirky things about it. What would have normally taken a week to finish a song took 4X that just trying to work around FL Studio (for example bouncing tracks were out of sync; nothing is intuitive to me in FL Studio).

[nIGhT-SoN]

I think for the first time I see mixed reactions for studio One 3.3. It's seems like it's not as stable for some. Some feel it's becoming to bloated. Where you at with it? Do you like it? If so, why not. Do you like using Notion 6 with it? How about presonus hardware integration with Studio One, you like it? Just curious about this.

I will speak only about what i dislike.

3. And the main concernis: Studio One after v3 does not move foward big steps like it was with previus version.

Wait wait... what? You are kidding, right? I hope you do. 3.2 was as big almost as 2.5 was for the Studio One 2. Even 3.3 added some great features. I would say they are bringing more features than they used to do with Studio One 1 or 2. If they will release a 3.5 too, version 3 for sure got the most features out of all version.

[Touch The Universe]

(for example bouncing tracks were out of sync; FL Studio).

I've experienced this too, are there any solutions to this?

[ozmuso67]

(for example bouncing tracks were out of sync; FL Studio).

I've experienced this too, are there any solutions to this?

I think so. For me as it turned out, the bounces were out of sync due to a plugin issue. The solution was to turn off all plugins (temporarily) in FL Studio prior to doing the bounce. Doing that fixed it for me, and bounces were in sync after that. Hopefully that fixes it for you as well. In my case, certain UAD plugins were responsible for throwing the bounce out-of-time.

[tuzemec]

I'm pretty happy with S1. No crashes, I like the colors, really dig the navigation and the zooming, and so on...

Tried to switch to Ableton Live, but... it just doesn't works for me. It's easier to experiment and come up with ideas there but when it comes to evolve the ideas into a full track - I always go back to S1.

The only thing that I really, really miss is the hardware delay compensation. I just don't understand how someone with external gear can work without it.

[chilly7]

I think for the first time I see mixed reactions for studio One 3.3. It's seems like it's not as stable for some. Some feel it's becoming to bloated. Where you at with it? Do you like it? If so, why not. Do you like using Notion 6 with it? How about presonus hardware integration with Studio One, you like it? Just curious about this.

I will speak only about what i dislike.

3. And the main concernis: Studio One after v3 does not move foward big steps like it was with previus version.

Wait wait... what? You are kidding, right? I hope you do. 3.2 was as big almost as 2.5 was for the Studio One 2. Even 3.3 added some great features. I would say they are bringing more features than they used to do with Studio One 1 or 2. If they will release a 3.5 too, version 3 for sure got the most features out of all version.

New FX engine is interesting but for long time we have only 1 console. It sound like a joke.
I want to see there high end 3rd party developers like for example Slate Digital.

And ofcause nobody from good developers will make good staff if Presonus will force them to do exclusives.
Good developers will joing Presonus boat only if the same plugins will be awailable for other DAWs as well.
Ofcause the new FX engine might offer some things which are not possible on other DAWs due to TECHNICAL reasons and that is ok. Developers can do more to plugins which might be not possible on other DAWs due to TECHNICAL reasons. But no ARTIFICIAL exclusives.

P.s. I see you opinion but my opinion is i do not think Studio One after v3 moves big steps foward.

[nIGhT-SoN]

I agree about adopting this new technology by other daws, ARA was the same deal. I think it just needs some big brands or PreSonus to come with some amazing that can be done only with the help of MixFX and then other developers will take a look at it.

[beatmangler443]

I'm cutting them slack if it took steinberg so long to fix the cpu spikes, and disc overload issues we can give presonus more time.

[erikgyle]

Great features and UX. Terrible performance.