"Dark Horse" copyright infringement ruling

[elxsound]

Half marks off for plagiarism. But still, that's the 50% wit we could have expected.

but, but, but... it's only three words.

Yes, but it was an egyptian pot, ergo satanic mockery.

Some days I definitely love this place more than others.

[elxsound]

I think this is bigger than music.

A guy dishonestly claiming copyright and a corrupt musician as expert selling us all out is bigger than music itself?


You actually believe straight quarters 3 3 3 3 | 2 2 in 4/4 can be copyrighted and (correct me if you've seen the light since you stated your position) violation of that would be bigger than music. whatevertf that means.

I believe he was responding directly to what telecode wrote, not so much the topic of the thread.

Taking it out of context does change things sometimes.

[jancivil]

"Message In A Bottle"

Sting should sue! me me me me re do!

Everybody litigate the first 3 tones of minor, it's the civilized thing to do!

[jancivil]

I think this is bigger than music.

A guy dishonestly claiming copyright and a corrupt musician as expert selling us all out is bigger than music itself?


You actually believe straight quarters 3 3 3 3 | 2 2 in 4/4 can be copyrighted and (correct me if you've seen the light since you stated your position) violation of that would be bigger than music. whatevertf that means.

I believe he was responding directly to what telecode wrote, not so much the topic of the thread.

Taking it out of context does change things sometimes.

I didn't. Your belief notwithstanding.
This indvidual had asserted that if Katy Perry had heard the lick before it's plagiarism.
Except it's not the same lick. It's the same for 6 notes; after that the original does: re do, KP does: do sol.
So either SAW75 is ignoring this fact or he believes those 6 notes - 75% of the lick - can be owned per se and use of is plagiarizing the ownership of that.

[elxsound]

I think this is bigger than music.

A guy dishonestly claiming copyright and a corrupt musician as expert selling us all out is bigger than music itself?


You actually believe straight quarters 3 3 3 3 | 2 2 in 4/4 can be copyrighted and (correct me if you've seen the light since you stated your position) violation of that would be bigger than music. whatevertf that means.

I believe he was responding directly to what telecode wrote, not so much the topic of the thread.

Taking it out of context does change things sometimes.

I didn't. Your belief notwithstanding.
This indvidual had asserted that if Katy Perry had heard the lick before it's plagiarism.
Except it's not the same lick. It's the same for 6 notes; after that the original does: re do, KP does: do sol.
So either SAW75 is ignoring this fact or he believes those 6 notes - 75% of the lick - can be owned per se and use of is plagiarizing the ownership of that.

You did. It was a direct response to telecode’s post.

SAW75 has lots of other posts directly related to the topic, but that specific one was directed at telecode (and not referencing the topic as if to suggest the ruling is bigger than music, just what telecode was referencing in his post included topics larger than just music).

[jancivil]

"IMO the intent of the riff is exactly the same so I will agree with the jury. Too similar to be ignored within context."

"if they proved she heard this or was aware of this song than it’s straight up plagiarism. The intent of that riff is exactly the same. if they proved she heard this or was aware of this song than it’s straight up plagiarism. The intent of that riff is exactly the same."

The intent; you can't copyright intent. You can't reasonably make similarity into exact sameness. The world of music could take this as precedence at some point and everybody notices all the similarity which makes records popular records and go litigious in extremis; that's not a good way to operate, that's not scrupulous. The guy suing is ludicrous.

[JerGoertz]

Katy Perry and Flame, both drawn and quartered in public spectacle.

"This is what happens when you cynically continue the degradation of popular music for personal gain."

They both worship Mammon.

[jancivil]

I believe he was responding directly to what telecode wrote, not so much the topic of the thread.

Taking it out of context does change things sometimes.

I didn't. Your belief notwithstanding.
This indvidual had asserted that if Katy Perry had heard the lick before it's plagiarism.
Except it's not the same lick. It's the same for 6 notes; after that the original does: re do, KP does: do sol.
So either SAW75 is ignoring this fact or he believes those 6 notes - 75% of the lick - can be owned per se and use of is plagiarizing the ownership of that.

You did. It was a direct response to telecode’s post.

And my response was to previous statements as well. THAT IS CONTEXT. telcode's post is not even relevant to what I said, I'm not addressing it, if_you_read_it you would grasp that.

SAW75 has, at least twice argued strenuously his agreement with the decision. He appears to stick with that.

"You actually believe straight quarters 3 3 3 3 | 2 2 in 4/4 can be copyrighted and (correct me if you've seen the light since you stated your position) violation of that would be bigger than music."

Is my context. It is the context of the thread. telecode's remark as *the* context is you cherry-picking the post in order to... what is the point of it? To ding me, for WHAT? Do you have a POV on the context of the thread?

[SAW75]

My response to telecode was in response to his response to wagtunes. Basically because he was trying to rationalize wagtune’s response to him. When I said “it was bigger than music” it was because I found wagtunes to be incredibly bigoted in referencing country music artists to be generally more civilized than a rapper that simply went to court to protect his music. First of all there is nothing uncivilized about bringing an issue to court. That’s what it’s there for. Second, generalizing country music artist as more civil or not out for a quick buck and using it against the rapper I believe is bigotry. So yeah Wagtune’s problem seems to be bigger than music.

[jancivil]

Yeah, that's even worse, because that accusation is not supported by anything in the thread.

One supposes one can never find fault with a black individual. If you could musically actually follow the case you would find the rapper's behavior wanting and dishonest. Evidently you agree with the decision, don't get that 6 of 8 notes in a dead simple line can't be plagiarized because it's not even a melody even should we go by metric of that as *the melody* (additionally failing to grasp that it's not the melody in the Katy Perry, it's a support line) , somehow arrived at 'intent' as a metric for ownership and you're gone off the rails since. Your problem is as small as it gets.

Never seen anyone needed to be muted more. Jesus.

[elxsound]

THAT IS CONTEXT.

ALL CAPS does not make it so.

[vurt]

dont mute jesus

[SAW75]

First of all, she lost the case, so...

Second, I didn’t say racist... I said bigoted. IMO!

Third, mute away

[vurt]

does jesus like rap?
i know he didn't enjoy much of the xtian rock stuff.

[jancivil]

"ALL CAPS does not make it so."


I explained my context which is additionally the larger context and you're just going to double down on that stupidity. What an utterly pointless waste of time.

all caps doesn't make it not so either