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IvyBirds wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2025 8:51 pm Wow again you miss the forest for the trees, that holds no bearing on end users
What a totally-expectedly moved goalpost from this:
IvyBirds wrote:So why don't you answer why developing for CLAP is easier in software development if you are going to develop for VST3 anyway?
Try and keep up with yourself.
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"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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whyterabbyt wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2025 9:13 pm
IvyBirds wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2025 8:51 pm Wow again you miss the forest for the trees, that holds no bearing on end users
What a totally-expectedly moved goalpost from this:
IvyBirds wrote:So why don't you answer why developing for CLAP is easier in software development if you are going to develop for VST3 anyway?
Try and keep up with yourself.
Nope not moving any goal posts, that's would be you who is now reduced to making the point that the best part of CLAP is that you can use it to develop your VST3

Which is great because you are unable to articulate why or give any reasons why people would stop using VST3 in favor of CLAP

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well it's newer tech, so it must be better.
at least that's what people were saying in another thread, newer tech beats old tech.
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We frequently get asked by customers what plugin format is 'the best'. That's why we created a website with answers.
It is a summary of facts, not opinions. Some of these facts are only known by developers and concealed by the marketing:

https://www.tone2.com/plugin-formats.html
https://www.tone2.com
Our award-winning synthesizers offer true high-end sound quality.

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I have to say that using Cubase makes all this a lot easier. I don't have a choice of using CLAP :hihi: .
I'm mucho entertained by this argument though. It's a bit skewed and looks weird only seeing one side, as Arguebirds is on my blank list (well, it's not a list - he's the only one here I've ever blanked). But I can imagine the interminable circular arguments he's using, so I can fill in the blanks. But finally a rock meets a hard place, this one could get into the hundreds of pages. Been waiting for this clash for a while. Go Rabbit, go! :party: :hug:

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Tone2 Synthesizers wrote: Fri Nov 07, 2025 6:11 am We frequently get asked by customers what plugin format is 'the best'. That's why we created a website with answers.
It is a summary of facts, not opinions. Some of these facts are only known by developers and concealed by the marketing:

https://www.tone2.com/plugin-formats.html
Is it actively updated? I thought the AAX SDK became ARM-native back in 2023 at the latest.
I hate signatures too.

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Yes. It is up to date. Make sure that you scrolled the feature table to the right if you use a mobile phone.

Here you can see:
AAX - M1 ARM support - since 2.4.1
https://www.tone2.com
Our award-winning synthesizers offer true high-end sound quality.

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Sorry, maybe I just got tripped up by some grammar in the note under the table. You wrote "Apple M1 support has been missing for too many years." Most native English speakers will interpret this as "M1 support was expected years ago, but it is still missing today," whereas I guess you meant something more like "sure, Avid delivered eventually, but it took way too long, so we can't trust them anymore." Was that your intent?

I probably see this tense mixup from German speakers (among others) every single day, but sometimes it still catches me with my pants down.
I hate signatures too.

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Tone2 Synthesizers wrote: Fri Nov 07, 2025 6:11 am We frequently get asked by customers what plugin format is 'the best'. That's why we created a website with answers.
It is a summary of facts, not opinions. Some of these facts are only known by developers and concealed by the marketing:

https://www.tone2.com/plugin-formats.html
The CLAP hosts bit needs updating as now there are several more

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IvyBirds wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:11 pm
whyterabbyt wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2025 9:13 pm
IvyBirds wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2025 8:51 pm Wow again you miss the forest for the trees, that holds no bearing on end users
What a totally-expectedly moved goalpost from this:
IvyBirds wrote:So why don't you answer why developing for CLAP is easier in software development if you are going to develop for VST3 anyway?
Try and keep up with yourself.
Nope not moving any goal posts
You specifically asked why developing for CLAP is easier, and when I told you why developing for CLAP was easier, you responded and said that I hadnt addressed a 'bearing on end users'

That's entirely moving the goalposts. The fact that you'd deny it is telling.

It would appear you cant even remember what you're talking about. And I think other indicators, eg your other memory losses, eg claims that VST3 is 22 years old, and very constant repetition of the same questions and statements over and over again, indicate the same thing.

I think you may want to get yourself a diagnose as you're showing multiple signs of dementia. Seriously.
Common symptoms of dementia

Each person experiences dementia in their own individual way. Different types of dementia also tend to affect people differently, especially in the early stages.

However, there are some common early signs and symptoms of dementia. These include:
Memory loss

For example, forgetting things that happened recently, problems with recall.
Difficulty concentrating, planning or organising
Definitely, as indicated above. You cant even remember what question you asked.
Difficulty concentrating, planning or organising
For example, struggling to make decisions, solve problems or follow a series of steps (such as cooking a meal).
I think your basic inability to express or follow logic could be related to that, as its basically what 'solving problems' is.

Problems with language and communication[/b]

For example, difficulties finding the right words, struggling to respond appropriately or follow a conversation.
Absolutely 100% spot on.
Misunderstanding what is being seen

For example, misidentifying things, struggling to judge distance (such as on stairs), and misinterpreting reflections, or hallucinating.
Sounds close, particularly the constant insistence that people are saying things they did not say/
Being confused about time or place

For example, losing track of the time or date, or becoming confused about where they are, or what time of their life they are in.
Certainly a bit of that, especially the VST3 is 22 years old stuff.
Mood changes or difficulty controlling emotions

For example, becoming unusually anxious, irritable, sad or frightened, losing interest in things and personality changes.
Definitely anxious and irritable. No baseline for some of the the rest though, as it seems perpetual when posting. Definitely frightened, noone so invested in constantly trying to prove that their way is the best way isnt inherently insecure.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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I’m looking for a workaround or patch that would let Sibelius, which only supports VST2 plug-ins, load Pianoteq 9, which now provides only a VST3 ...

As far as I understand, Sibelius requires a .dll (VST2) file, but Pianoteq 9 no longer includes one — Pianoteq 8 was the last version to offer a VST2 build.

Has anyone found a VST2–VST3 bridge or another solution that would allow Pianoteq 9 to work inside Sibelius? Any insight, patch, or workaround would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Harry

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vurt wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:34 pm well it's newer tech, so it must be better.
at least that's what people were saying in another thread, newer tech beats old tech.
Younger people also beat older people, because they take advantage of the latest advances in human and cultural evolution, with no outdated neural connections, just like computers!
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Michael L wrote: Thu Nov 13, 2025 6:53 pm
Younger people also beat older people,
we've all seen clockwork orange :o
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Younger people beat older people - only in silly things like marathon running, jumping off bridges tied to an elastic band or ways to shoehorn using a mobile phone into everyday life for things that are obvious already. Whereas older people beat younger people in important things like pie-eating or figuring out how to tie your own shoelaces without using a mobile phone, or even using a mobile phone as a phone. Just saying.... :P

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kritikon wrote: Thu Nov 13, 2025 7:31 pm Younger people beat older people - only in silly things like marathon running, jumping off bridges tied to an elastic band or ways to shoehorn using a mobile phone into everyday life for things
thats mostly old people finishing off bucket lists isnt it?
:ud:

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