Waves Platinum or Voxengo Plugs and a computer upgrade?

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well, sorry for being so easily tweaked...

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it's not just you - actually it's most of us and I think to a big part it's due to this troll Stairsteps having roamed this thread...

where have we been again?

ah yeah - Sonitus - you can still buy the single plugins for really low prices - e.g. the compressor and the eq for 39$ each and the reverb for 49$ - that even beats Voxengo's prices... :-D

http://store.yahoo.com/cakewalkdirect/sonitus.html

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Sonitus stuff is good. Been around for ages now, but still decent.
Every day takes figuring out all over again how to f#ckin’ live.

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jens wrote:it's not just you - actually it's most of us and I think to a big part it's due to this troll Stairsteps having roamed this thread...

where have we been again?

ah yeah - Sonitus - you can still buy the single plugins for really low prices - e.g. the compressor and the eq for 39$ each and the reverb for 49$ - that even beats Voxengo's prices... :-D

http://store.yahoo.com/cakewalkdirect/sonitus.html
Yes,

and if there wouldn't be Posifopit (free and better sounding) and Voxengos GlissEQ which is also better sounding than the Sonitus EQ I would recommend it. It was my main EQ on my last CD after some long EQ comparissons. Maybe it's just taste as I was getting very far with the Sonitus EQ but it didn't feel very comfortable while using it. I'm faster getting results that I like with Posifopit than with the Sonitus EQ.


Best wishes, FRitz
In the end will be the word.
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jens wrote:people start being nice to each other...
Yeah ppl start being nice or I'll pull out your teeth.
Im old school and I got into the record buss using a fostex 4 track tape player back in the 80's , I admit my system is kinda old and my sound card isnt the best but it dosent have to be, I am getting paid royalties and have a couple new contracts with a Major label so yeah the audigy is kinda a joke and alot of ppl in the industry cant belive I still use it, but they also cant belive the results I get out of it either which im loyal to it cause it has gotten me several record deals for my clients.
As far as upgrading Ive put it off for so long and I keep getting work from using this old equiptment I have that I feel like a relic but I get fresh new money for using it so im happy with the results.
At least I dont mock or complain about gear like some crack addict needing a fix, I said gladley that I own Voxengo and Waves but use them for different purposes but some of you rave over this stuff like its a girl or something, get real and get skillz then you wont have to worry about whats new or whats the best for what cause you'll be confident knowing that the best lies within yourself and your abilities to work with what ever you have.
And unlike most of you I imagine are not getting paid by a company just here to share your personal likes and whatnot, but Im different I get paid for what I do and enjoy the many different vsts and technology thats available to us all, Do I care if you use a certian plug or not? No I have no invested interest in that sort of thing I just like to be truthfull and tell what works for me.

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all good for you! :-D

- but now go and learn what a pop-filter is for instead of insulting other people by telling them they don't know their stuff... ;-)

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bmanic wrote:
Well, right now my brain is on overload from mixing an album that needs to be done before the 30th of August (mastering day!)
bManic
good luck with the mixing job!

(and, by the way, to prevent overloading your brain you really need a good limiter :D )
Last edited by OMU on Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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The audigy however is a good choice for me esp since I have several clients that submit alot of work to the video game industry, Yeah video games remember that? its the industry thats about just as strong for recording music than the record bus itself. And they pay good too.
As far as the pop filter it was and still is a method used to mask the Ssss or sharp Cccc's from cracking in a recording you dont lower or edit lol the volume yourself in a recording and expect that to sound natural which is what i corrected you on jens. Take care and clam down we all love gear and we all are right as long as the results are satisfactory youll get paid period.

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joachime wrote:
chagzuki wrote:For every Waves plugin there's a better and far cheaper alternative.
What's a better and far cheaper alternative to Ren de-esser? :)
Spitfish, it's free and good.

http://www.digitalfishphones.com/


Best wishes, FRitz
In the end will be the word.
Check out some of my music at www.fritzmetal.de

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Stairsteps wrote: As far as the pop filter it was and still is a method used to mask the Ssss or sharp Cccc's from cracking in a recording
false - a pop-filter needs to be almost inaudible - i.e. it has not effect whatsoever on certain frequencies etc. blablabla - it merely splits one big stream of air into many tiny streams... (can't explain this better in English :?)
you dont lower or edit lol the volume yourself in a recording and expect that to sound natural which is what i corrected you on jens.
doing it this way sounds far more natural than using a de-esser - that's the reason to do it this way after all - you can always hear a de-esser working but if you carefully edit the gain of offending sybilants you can't hear it at all (at least if you are good at editing) so your correction is still completely wrong.

But why not doing a small competition just for the fun of it:

someone could post a vocal take with offending sssss and we both try to get rid of them - I edit the material manually and you can use your Waves de-esser and the we both upload out result for others to judge what sounds more natural.

What do you say?

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Auge um Auge, Zahn um Zahn... nöö danke.
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fritzman wrote:
joachime wrote:
chagzuki wrote:For every Waves plugin there's a better and far cheaper alternative.
What's a better and far cheaper alternative to Ren de-esser? :)
Spitfish, it's free and good.

http://www.digitalfishphones.com/


Best wishes, FRitz
touché!

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Sascha Franck wrote:Auge um Auge, Zahn um Zahn... nöö danke.
:oops: eigentlich muß ich Dir zustimmen - ich mag so eine Einstellung üblicherweise auch überhaupt garnicht
und bin alles andere als ein rachsüchtiger Mensch...

- aber manchmal sollte man glaube ich schon entsprechend reagieren... :?

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These German bits, very avant-garde. :love:

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You dont know how to use a pop filter or what its even used for so here you go.

Each person's unique vocal signature contains various amounts of popping and sibilance that can become evident as overload distortions when recording vocals. The time and energy of a great vocal performance can be ruined by a few pesky pops or sizzling S's. Acoustic protection is needed to help assure a clear vocal recording free from distortion.

Adjustable Advantage of
Instead of the 'one pop filter fits all' design all other 'embroidery hoop' pop filters manufacturers provide, VAC™ takes an adjustable approach to recording better sounding vocals. The user controls the amount of pop and sibilance filtering by adjusting one or two of the acoustic screens in the screen holder to best match their own vocal characteristics. Controlling popping P's and sizzling S's before the sound reaches the microphone helps maximize vocal quality. VAC™ brings pop filter technology into the 21st century.

This is what is used by many industry ppl to control pops and Sss not by editing now matter what you say lol.
Also a De-esser does the same thing which I think R-de-esser is one of the best but to recomend to ppl to edit the volume manuel to try to cut out the sibling Ssss or Hard Pppps with a editor is just plain wrong and backwards thinking. np you keep on editing those vocals and here hoping you get paid for doing it.

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