Roland Cloud

[dionenoid]

Btw : The new 303 is a good example of how far behind Roland really is. Just have a look at ABL3 :
https://www.audiorealism.se/audiorealis ... ine-3.html#
It's the go-to for many 303-lovers for many, many years now...

How is the date of release an indicator of how far behind someone is? What matters is how good of a emulation the Roland 303 is, and it sounds pretty darn good judging by the sound demos.

The date of release is not important at all, only the fact that it took them years to come up with something that has already been done much better

ABL3 is so good that 303 day is called ABL3 day nowadays

[fmr]

Wave Alchemy Revolution is a sample library for NI Kontakt. Apples and Oranges.

[Stefken]

Btw : The new 303 is a good example of how far behind Roland really is. Just have a look at ABL3 :
https://www.audiorealism.se/audiorealis ... ine-3.html#
It's the go-to for many 303-lovers for many, many years now...

How is the date of release an indicator of how far behind someone is? What matters is how good of a emulation the Roland 303 is, and it sounds pretty darn good judging by the sound demos.

The date of release is not important at all, only the fact that it took them years to come up with something that has already been done much better

ABL3 is so good that 303 day is called ABL3 day nowadays

What is so much better about the ABL3?

[Echoes in the Attic]

Btw : The new 303 is a good example of how far behind Roland really is. Just have a look at ABL3 :
https://www.audiorealism.se/audiorealis ... ine-3.html#
It's the go-to for many 303-lovers for many, many years now...

How is the date of release an indicator of how far behind someone is? What matters is how good of a emulation the Roland 303 is, and it sounds pretty darn good judging by the sound demos.

The date of release is not important at all, only the fact that it took them years to come up with something that has already been done much better

ABL3 is so good that 303 day is called ABL3 day nowadays

What is so much better about the ABL3?

One thing is the the ABL3 VST2 works in windows. For me at least, only the VST3 version of the Roland 303 works.

[Mushy Mushy]

Is this the same code as the TB03?

[chk071]

Btw : The new 303 is a good example of how far behind Roland really is. Just have a look at ABL3 :
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">https://www.audiorealism.se/audiorealis ... html</span>#
It's the go-to for many 303-lovers for many, many years now...

How is the date of release an indicator of how far behind someone is? What matters is how good of a emulation the Roland 303 is, and it sounds pretty darn good judging by the sound demos.

The date of release is not important at all, only the fact that it took them years to come up with something that has already been done much better

ABL3 is so good that 303 day is called ABL3 day nowadays

What is so much better about the ABL3?

One thing is the the ABL3 VST2 works in windows. For me at least, only the VST3 version of the Roland 303 works.

I don't consider that a sign of quality, to be honest.

[dionenoid]

Btw : The new 303 is a good example of how far behind Roland really is. Just have a look at ABL3 :
https://www.audiorealism.se/audiorealis ... ine-3.html#
It's the go-to for many 303-lovers for many, many years now...

How is the date of release an indicator of how far behind someone is? What matters is how good of a emulation the Roland 303 is, and it sounds pretty darn good judging by the sound demos.

The date of release is not important at all, only the fact that it took them years to come up with something that has already been done much better

ABL3 is so good that 303 day is called ABL3 day nowadays

What is so much better about the ABL3?

The sequencer(s), the tweakable mods, the presets from big artists, the drag-and-drop functions and you can actually buy it and use it without the stupid Cloud

I have no doubt that the Roland 303 sounds good, like i said before there's nothing wrong with how all the Roland Cloud stuff sounds (unless you're a total purist) but it's the way how everything works and functions. So many missed opportunities and little annoyances in every product. But that's my opinion.

[chk071]

One thing i feel like you can criticize is (once again) the GUI. Looks pretty dated, and a bit clumsy as well. About the sequencer, well... i don't know how close it is to the real thing, but, i'd assume that people will want it to be closed, being an emulation and all.

[chk071]

Is this the same code as the TB03?

Would be interesting to know.

[yehboy1]

Btw : The new 303 is a good example of how far behind Roland really is. Just have a look at ABL3 :
https://www.audiorealism.se/audiorealis ... ine-3.html#
It's the go-to for many 303-lovers for many, many years now...

How is the date of release an indicator of how far behind someone is? What matters is how good of a emulation the Roland 303 is, and it sounds pretty darn good judging by the sound demos.

The date of release is not important at all, only the fact that it took them years to come up with something that has already been done much better

ABL3 is so good that 303 day is called ABL3 day nowadays

What is so much better about the ABL3?

The sequencer(s), the tweakable mods, the presets from big artists, the drag-and-drop functions and you can actually buy it and use it without the stupid Cloud

I have no doubt that the Roland 303 sounds good, like i said before there's nothing wrong with how all the Roland Cloud stuff sounds (unless you're a total purist) but it's the way how everything works and functions. So many missed opportunities and little annoyances in every product. But that's my opinion.

Have you used the Roland Cloud 303 yet? After a few minutes with it, I can say it has numerous advantages over the ABL3.

[dionenoid]

Btw : The new 303 is a good example of how far behind Roland really is. Just have a look at ABL3 :
https://www.audiorealism.se/audiorealis ... ine-3.html#
It's the go-to for many 303-lovers for many, many years now...

How is the date of release an indicator of how far behind someone is? What matters is how good of a emulation the Roland 303 is, and it sounds pretty darn good judging by the sound demos.

The date of release is not important at all, only the fact that it took them years to come up with something that has already been done much better

ABL3 is so good that 303 day is called ABL3 day nowadays

What is so much better about the ABL3?

The sequencer(s), the tweakable mods, the presets from big artists, the drag-and-drop functions and you can actually buy it and use it without the stupid Cloud

I have no doubt that the Roland 303 sounds good, like i said before there's nothing wrong with how all the Roland Cloud stuff sounds (unless you're a total purist) but it's the way how everything works and functions. So many missed opportunities and little annoyances in every product. But that's my opinion.

Have you used the Roland Cloud 303 yet? After a few minutes with it, I can say it has numerous advantages over the ABL3.

That's good to hear. I saw they added drag-and-drop so i stand corrected about that one. How's the sound ? ABL3 was already so close that i sold my Devilfish 303, the original sequencer is such hell to work with. Only have a Syntecno clone here, so i can still use the filter.

But no, didn't try. I deleted everything Roland Cloud now. Maybe i'll try it again some day, when they fix the stupid Cloud system. Or when they start selling their products

[electro]

Why not just use a DAW with good low latency ASIO card? What would be the advantage of a workstation keyboard?

Well, I wish Korg or Roland once came up with a really state-of-the-art-and-tech workstation softsynth, like Korg Kronos VSTI, or Roland V-Synth 2 VSTi. Or at least making a VSTi of some more recent abandoned legacy products, like Korg M3, V-Synth, Radias. It could cost more than usual then.

[chk071]

I agree that a workstation-like soft synth would probably be pointless, because you can have its different parts in much higher quality with dedicated plugins.

[sleepcircle]

Wave Alchemy Revolution is a sample library for NI Kontakt. Apples and Oranges.

oh, then i can't use it, hahah. kontakt is out of my league.

[hesnotthemessiah]

Me and another Reaper user have posted a problem with the new Roland TB-303 plugin at:-

http://forums.rolandclan.com/viewtopic. ... 19#p313419

Would be helpful if anyone else who has had a problem with this plugin could add a post at the above thread.

I will contact Roland Support with my problem and the above link.


This was the error I got with Reaper:-

Plug-in 'TB-303(VST3 64bit).vst3' executed invalid operation during scanning

AND

Plug-in 'TB-303(VST2 64bit).dll' executed invalid operation during scanning

Both of the above messages appear with the heading "VST scanning error + note" whilst Reaper scans for new plugins upon launch and finds the newly installed TB-303 plugins for the first time. No Roland TB-303 plugins are then available in Reaper.

TR_808_VST3_64bit_.vst3=004C34390287D401,1961593337,TR-808 (Roland Cloud) (24 out)!!!VSTi
TB_303_VST3_64bit_.vst3=000D1EBD3ED0D401

TR_808_VST2_64bit_.dll=0086DA7C0187D401,1449227065,TR-808 (Roland Cloud) (24 out)!!!VSTi
TB_303_VST2_64bit_.dll=002735733ED0D401

The above is copied directly from the reaper-vstplugins64.ini file and shows that both the VST3 and VST2 versions of the TB-303 have data missing from their entries here.

Using latest versions of Reaper (5.9.71) and Windows 10. No problems with other Roland plugins.