The Yamaha EZ-EG Guitar Midi Controller Thread

[Voltxaire]

hi again guys!

um, well, for some reason the yamaha ezag guitar tools that was recommended to me earlier has stopped picking up midi data when I strum the strings.

i don't know..

but anyway, i'm trying to find a midi controlling plug-in that filters out velocities of 16 and lower so this way i can play the instrument into my DAW more effectively and efficiently.

any recommendations?

i tried looking on this page http://www.asseca.com/nicfit/, but I was not sure exactly what I was looking for.

any help would be appreciated!

[bmrzycki]

If your DAW is Reaper it's super simple to do this with a JS plugin:

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desc:Remove Note On events with VEL_THRESH or smaller velocities

slider1:0<0,65535,1>Filtered Note Count

@init
NOTE_ON = 9;
VEL_THRESH = 16;

@block
while (
    midirecv(mpos, msg1, msg23) ? (
        msg1_hi = (msg1 / 16) | 0;
        msg2 = (msg23 / 256) | 0;
        msg3 = (msg23 & 255) | 0;
        slider2 = msg2;
        (msg1_hi == NOTE_ON) ? (
            (msg2 > VEL_THRESH) ? (
                midisend(mpos, msg1, msg23);
            ) : (
                slider1 = slider1 + 1;
            );
        ) : (
            // Pass-through for all other events
            midisend(mpos, msg1, msg23);
        );
    );
);

Just save that as a JS plugin with a simple text editor. In Reaper open it up in the FX chain as an inserted effect and you're good to go.

[Voltxaire]

ah, sorry. my DAW is FL 9, maybe i can do it in that DAW


*does some googling*

at first glance, signs point to no.

[bmrzycki]

JS is a built-in scripting language in Reaper, I doubt it's in anything but it.

You might be able to use some of Piz's freeware VSTs. Check them out at http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=192282, especially midiVelocityScale, midiNotchFilter, or midiNoteGroups. I haven't tried them but the descriptions sound like they just might do what you're looking for, and the price is right.

[Voltxaire]

ok thanks! i'll check those out right now~!

; )

[RunBeerRun]

If you're on pc, there's the free NDC MIDI plugins. Might be available on other systems.

I made one in Synthedit, it's called robot arms, you can filter out the low velocity, or boost for fretting only. The ndc stuff is a better bet, my stuff is my sig.

[mbncp]

JS is a built-in scripting language in Reaper, I doubt it's in anything but it.

There is a vst version called "reajs.dll" that you can even customise in the "reajs_info.txt" file. I use it mainly within bidule but it should work with pretty much any host.

[Markleford]

Two long weeks later...

I'm using the application from tencrazy.com, When i use it and press the -/+ buttons it changes the presets on the application (e.g. Fretboard to Guitar) but when i don't use it, i can change all the instruments which is what i want it to do, problem is all the notes sound off!

My EZ-ge app does indeed map the -/+ buttons to app preset changes and filters out all MIDI Program Change messages. Only way around that now is for me to add new code, but I've lost momentum...

- m

[Robert2122]

Hello.
I am new user Yamaha EZ-EG, I have a question.

Did you use guitar rig or amplitube programs on midi guitars ?

I have bought a Yahama EZ-EG with Midisport Uno and i have problems to connect my ez-eg to some of this programs.

I play by guitar but sound is not play from speakers. It looks like this programs don't see my guitar , or midi signal ( is no reaction during play).

I have instal latest sound drivers ( to VIA high definition integrated) and ASIO4ALL 2.10

I have doing everything with settings but still not runing.

I am greenhorn.

If you can help me i will be thankful for some advices.

[RunBeerRun]

Guitar Rig and Amplitube are effects, not instruments. So the midi note-on data won't do anything, you "could" plug the ez-ag's audio ouput, the regular jack into your computer and modify the sound w/amp sims.

Get a free guitar vsti, like Superriff or a soundfont and then use your amp sims. Or just get into synths.

I fixed my Ez app, I made it in Synthedit, a Windows plug. It does various things to enhance the ez, and now properly limits note-on time if desired.
-> http://www.mediafire.com/file/3ed24zkzmcm/RobotArms.rar

[manytone]

Guitar Rig and Amplitube are effects, not instruments. So the midi note-on data won't do anything, you "could" plug the ez-ag's audio ouput, the regular jack into your computer and modify the sound w/amp sims.

Get a free guitar vsti, like Superriff or a soundfont and then use your amp sims. Or just get into synths.

I fixed my Ez app, I made it in Synthedit, a Windows plug. It does various things to enhance the ez, and now properly limits note-on time if desired.
-> http://www.mediafire.com/file/3ed24zkzmcm/RobotArms.rar

It has been a while since I fired up my EZAG. I recall having to load up Midi Yoke and the other app (I think the Markleford 10crazy app? hmmmm .... it has been too long) and get it all linked up to host etc.

RunBeer, is your app an easier way to simply use the EZAG as a VSTi controller?
Sounds interesting.... more details please. As said it has been a while since I used my EZAG but I am itching to try it out again.

Quite a while back, I also purchased the app that was made for EZAG by another dev in this thread but never did try it out properly. I wonder what's the best simple method? Or for that matter, does anyone know the differences between the 3 apps available? (Thread is pretty long, perhaps time for a recap)?
Thanks
Paul

[Robert2122]

Hello, I have solved my problem.

I have bought a Creative X-Fi Titanium Sound card, before i have integrated sound card on my motherboard and cable to the guitar as to amplifier with two mini jack ending (stereo).

Now my guitar works great with amplitube and guitar rig.

I using my midi cable to programs like sonar, dimension pro and cubase.

Before when i don't have X-Fi i using driver asio4all but this don't work with my integrated sound card (via hd audio), now X-Fi have own driver asio and work perfect.

Thanks of advices

[Markleford]

Or for that matter, does anyone know the differences between the 3 apps available?

Mine was primarily limited to filtering out the "fret-on" low velocity notes and supporting a few different modes, including one that was a finger-tapping style grid of buttons entirely ignoring the strings (I used that the most, since I used to play Chapman Stick).

I also had a bunch of presets between these modes and different tunings, changeable from the EZ's program buttons. You couldn't make new programs in the app, but the javascript was there and faily easily understandable.

It was a VBscript app with an ActiveX control (MIDIX) that Marc wrote, so you needed to use a loopback port to get it into your app. This was a necessity for me, since SONAR doesn't take inline systex input: I would've done it all in an MFX plugin otherwise. It worked fairly well for my purposes, but I haven't used it for literally years: it's boxed up nary 3 feet from me, having done two cross-country moves never opened since Jan 2006.

Marc's (mbncp) script app did some nice MIDI Out sending back to the EZ to light the fret buttons, and I think it knew how to show you scales and such. It had preset loading and saving, if I recall. I think it allowed you to load a MIDI file for playback, too. The odd thing was, I couldn't get his later versions to work on my system: somehow our VBscript engine dlls got out of sync, and it would always error-out on my system.

Since my EZ's been on the shelf for years, I have no idea what RBR's app does! Probably some subset of the usual with some extras suited to his own needs. I guess give it a whirl yourself or wait for him to chime in.

- m

[TomEccles]

Two long weeks later...

I'm using the application from tencrazy.com, When i use it and press the -/+ buttons it changes the presets on the application (e.g. Fretboard to Guitar) but when i don't use it, i can change all the instruments which is what i want it to do, problem is all the notes sound off!

My EZ-ge app does indeed map the -/+ buttons to app preset changes and filters out all MIDI Program Change messages. Only way around that now is for me to add new code, but I've lost momentum...

- m

I'd be grateful if you could tell if there is a way around it? Is there any code that i could change within the application that could maybe do this. It's just that i've been learning about programming code but haven't found any way i could change the program changes!
-Thanks

[Markleford]

I'd be grateful if you could tell if there is a way around it? Is there any code that i could change within the application that could maybe do this. It's just that i've been learning about programming code but haven't found any way i could change the program changes!
-Thanks

I don't remember offhand, but there's probably some "programChange()" function that handles such things. Give me a ping at the TenCrazy.com site below and I'll try to find the time to help you out.

- m