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Musical Gym wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:15 am
killmaster wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:31 pm Can someone recommend a VST sequencer plugin that offers similar functionality to the Arturia Keystep Pro in terms of sequencing?
I've been pondering that for awhile. Stochas has random settings. Pigments sequencer has regeneration. You might need to break down the functionality of KSP and look for sequencers that can perform each task, and then possibly combine them into a multi-instrument in a daw like Studio One or Bitwig?
If you find the answer, let me know.
I will! Thanks for this. Good advice. I've got Pigments and never thought of using it for sequencing another instrument. And also Stochas sounds promising too.

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killmaster wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:31 pm Can someone recommend a VST sequencer plugin that offers similar functionality to the Arturia Keystep Pro in terms of sequencing?
numerology by five12 is a monster when it comes to midi sequencing - with probabilities, jumps, ratchets, step repeats, step skip etc - can be ran as a plugin or standalone.

has great physical control via a launchpad too.

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OneOfManyPauls wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:56 pm
killmaster wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:31 pm Can someone recommend a VST sequencer plugin that offers similar functionality to the Arturia Keystep Pro in terms of sequencing?
numerology by five12 is a monster when it comes to midi sequencing - with probabilities, jumps, ratchets, step repeats, step skip etc - can be ran as a plugin or standalone.

has great physical control via a launchpad too.
Sounds interesting. Thanks, I'll check it out. EDIT: can't find a demo that works in Monterrey.

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killmaster wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:02 pm
Musical Gym wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:15 am
killmaster wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:31 pm Can someone recommend a VST sequencer plugin that offers similar functionality to the Arturia Keystep Pro in terms of sequencing?
I've been pondering that for awhile. Stochas has random settings. Pigments sequencer has regeneration. You might need to break down the functionality of KSP and look for sequencers that can perform each task, and then possibly combine them into a multi-instrument in a daw like Studio One or Bitwig?
If you find the answer, let me know.
I will! Thanks for this. Good advice. I've got Pigments and never thought of using it for sequencing another instrument. And also Stochas sounds promising too.


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Musical Gym wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:46 am
killmaster wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:02 pm
Musical Gym wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:15 am
killmaster wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:31 pm Can someone recommend a VST sequencer plugin that offers similar functionality to the Arturia Keystep Pro in terms of sequencing?
I've been pondering that for awhile. Stochas has random settings. Pigments sequencer has regeneration. You might need to break down the functionality of KSP and look for sequencers that can perform each task, and then possibly combine them into a multi-instrument in a daw like Studio One or Bitwig?
If you find the answer, let me know.
I will! Thanks for this. Good advice. I've got Pigments and never thought of using it for sequencing another instrument. And also Stochas sounds promising too.

Much appreciated!! So glad to know about the Pigments sequencer thing!

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^definitely

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That Pigment sequencer looks pretty good - I have well enough that can do similar at the moment anyway but if Pigments was on offer cheap it would certainly have me thinking

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I have joined the dark side and for jamming things out I'm now primarily driving things from hardware MIDI so that's a keystep, Korg SQ-64 and various Elektron devices that can all pump out MIDI sequences. Now I've started using the software stuff primarily for randomly affecting those sequences (mainly via Reason REs) and also HY Plugins RE-32 to sequence CCs on the hardware instruments. I've yet to feel 100% happy with it, but it's closer to where I think I want to be and the timing seems much tighter coming from hardware synced clocks.

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I think a separate instance of Pigments on each of four daw tracks driving either itself, other plugins, and/or hardware synths might be able to come fairly close to what KSP does...especially since Pigments can be either an arp or a sequencer in each instance/track.

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Musical Gym wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:46 am I think a separate instance of Pigments on each of four daw tracks driving either itself, other plugins, and/or hardware synths might be able to come fairly close to what KSP does...especially since Pigments can be either an arp or a sequencer in each instance/track.
Riffer comes quite close to what the Pigments sequencer does - going by the video posted earlier - not exactly, but very close (and o course with some things Pigments cant do as well)

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Thanks for idea with Riffer. I'll try the Riffer/Pigments combo.

Chord Potion can play chords, basslines, arps, and melodies in different octaves and at different speeds output to four separate channels (or to the same channel).

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Musical Gym wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:46 am I think a separate instance of Pigments on each of four daw tracks driving either itself, other plugins, and/or hardware synths might be able to come fairly close to what KSP does...especially since Pigments can be either an arp or a sequencer in each instance/track.
Not every DAW can route Pigments like the guy does in the video -- He is using Bitwig - Ableton cannot do that. I wonder how many DAWs can ??
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Fraggle wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:20 amNot every DAW can route Pigments like the guy does in the video -- He is using Bitwig - Ableton cannot do that. I wonder how many DAWs can ??
what can't be done in ableton? on the receiving synth track can set it to use the midi output of the pigments track, and can create midi tracks that do nothing but route midi from pigments to whatever other midi track is desired - so could have 3 instances of pigments routing into one instance of another synth if desired.

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You could just do it with 3 instances of Pigments into 3 instances of the plugin you want to affect (instead of 3 into 1) if you can't get it to work.
I'm doing it in Studio One that way and it is sounding good.

I tried in Bitwig 4.1.4 but Pigments isn't loading or responding properly.
I posted the problem in Bitwig forum here at KVR.

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Musical Gym wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:46 am I think a separate instance of Pigments on each of four daw tracks driving either itself, other plugins, and/or hardware synths might be able to come fairly close to what KSP does...especially since Pigments can be either an arp or a sequencer in each instance/track.
:tu: Just tried this in Studio One Pro 5 and Cakewalk bB.

I have Riffer but I like the way Pigments works in this way.

Thanks @Musical Gym

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