Repro-1 (out now)

[shroom81]

I wouldn't say engineering-driven, I'd say nostalgia-driven.

A week in since the initial beta release, Repro-1 has topped Hive's first week by 100% (i.e. it sold twice as often), Bazille's by 150%. Those were our most successful product launches ever, prior to this one. In fact Repro-1 has sold twice as many copies as Bazille in all of 2016. It's quite remarkable by our standards.

That's great news! Congratulations with this awesome synth, awaiting my credit card payment to go through cause I've been drooling over a Pro-1 half my life and now I've got one, thank you so much

[zerocrossing]

I just thought of something... the Pro 1 has a Filter CV in, eh? We could keep authenticity and add a second LFO if it were dedicated to this virtual CV connection. It could be super simple. I'm not saying it needs this to be an awesome synth, but I can't help myself. I love at least 2 LFOs on a mono and I hate to give up one of my VCOs. I love that Moog added this to its Model D reissue. I hope Legend follows.

Ableton + Max, Bitwig or Reaper are allowing it without any action from U-he

Yeah, I know the work-a-rounds, but this is clumsy and ties your sound not to the preset but to the project. Not good for LFOs approaching audio rates.

Again, I'm not complaining. Just a little devil's advocacy. The big ones for me, velocity and aftertouch, were nicely implemented. I wouldn't want this to become some bloated synth that lost its personality. That said, there's something to me about a dual VCO, synth with two dedicated LFOs and 3 envelopes that hit's a "sweet spot" of functionality and usability.

[wagtunes]

I wouldn't say engineering-driven, I'd say nostalgia-driven.

A week in since the initial beta release, Repro-1 has topped Hive's first week by 100% (i.e. it sold twice as often), Bazille's by 150%. Those were our most successful product launches ever, prior to this one. In fact Repro-1 has sold twice as many copies as Bazille in all of 2016. It's quite remarkable by our standards.

And you know why that is Urs? I'll tell you why. I had absolutely ZERO interest in a mono synth. When the Alpha came out I tried it, went meh, and went on with my business. Didn't even care much which filter you ended up using.

And then this thing came out. I heard it and my jaw dropped to the floor. I knew that this was one of those rare synths that would actually add a new dimension of sound, even if I just used it for bass and leads, that I simply wasn't getting from anything else, including your own synths. And I own them all except Hive.

It didn't take me long to get this and I've already used it on one of my recent tracks as an ARP. I had to freeze the track because it sucked up so much CPU that once I got to 30 tracks, with everything, I was hitting 100%. This one track was 20% of that, more than any other synth. And that was with 2 instances of Omnisphere for soundscapes. But it was worth it. That dirt and grit was just what I was missing.

That's why this thing is selling like crazy, in spite of all its limitations in staying "faithful" to the original.

Just keep doing what you're doing. I think you know better than all the Monday morning quarterbacks on this forum.

[jbuonacc]

... my UI/design suggestions ...

there's a hundred other synths out there with polyphony, several LFOs, mod matrix, etc... this one doesn't need all that. same with The Legend, Monark, the TAL emulations... their strict adherence to the original design is what makes them what they are. especially with this one, as it's such a unique design.

it's stuff like this that ruined d16's LuSH-101, turned it into some goofy monster franken-synth.

[Faza]

Can I reuse, convert, copy/paste or redone my current beta presets in the relase version of RePro-1? I hope at least, to have an access to see the parameters of my beta presets and also RePro's saved presets/settings in the Reaper DAW projects, after when the beta will be over.

[Gadget Fiend]

...there's something to me about a dual VCO, synth with two dedicated LFOs and 3 envelopes that hit's a "sweet spot" of functionality and usability.

Yeah, that does seem to be the minimum feature set to create a more versatile synth - although including these features obviously doesn't mean the synth will necessarily sound good. I'll take sound quality over more features any day! That's why I own several vintage synths that include only a single LFO (and two envelopes if I am lucky) - because these hardware analog synths sound fantastic despite their limited architectures.

I'd be curious to get your opinion, zerocrossing, regarding including an Attack/Release "Mod Envelope" rather than a full ADSR (just to conserve space on the UI). I also think it's fine if the fixed mod routings have only one assignment (among 2 or 3 destinations) like on the Nord Leads. But that's where including an additional 8-slot mod matrix can go a long way to providing additional flexibility.

As an aside, I think Behringer has totally nailed it with the Deep MInd 12: They included a simple front panel for live tweaking and then added a really flexible mod matrix and step sequencer for deeper programming. Plus, the Deep Mind sounds pretty darn good for a "modern analog" based on the few YouTube demos I've heard so far.

[Ah_Dziz]

...there's something to me about a dual VCO, synth with two dedicated LFOs and 3 envelopes that hit's a "sweet spot" of functionality and usability.

Yeah, that does seem to be the minimum feature set to create a more versatile synth - although including these features obviously doesn't mean the synth will necessarily sound good. I'll take sound quality over more features any day! That's why I own a bunch of vintage synths that include only a single LFO (and two envelopes if I am lucky) - because these hardware analog synths sound fantastic despite their limited architectures.

I'd be curious to get your opinion, zerocrossing, regarding including an Attack/Release "Mod Envelope" rather than a full ADSR (just to conserve space on the UI). I also think it's fine if the fixed mod routings have only one assignment (among 2 or 3 destinations) like on the Nord Leads. But that's where including an additional 8-slot mod matrix can go a long way to providing additional flexibility.

As an aside, I think Behringer has totally nailed it with the Deep MInd 12: They included a simple front panel for live tweaking and then added a really flexible mod matrix and step sequencer for deeper programming. Plus, the Deep Mind sounds pretty darn good for a "modern analog" based on the few YouTube demos I've heard so far.

Have you guys looked at the performance section? There's a way to have a AD mod envelope already included, and it makes ridiculous sounds when coupled with its hard wired routing. You have a pro one, I used to. This is pretty damn close to the original's sound and had lots of other fun stuff on top of that besides the inherent advantages of software. Maybe this filter will find its way into the selection of diva filters later and then you guys can have all the modulation you want. In the meantime. There are thousands of synths with options galore and many many "emulations" that have crazy amounts of tacked on features but kind of fall down on the emulating the vintage synth part. This thing is cheap and made to be a software recreation of the pro one. If that's not what you're into just look elsewhere its not complicated.

[ImNotDedYet]

As part of my "accepting life on life's terms" philosophy, I must accept the fact that when people are unprepared to even listen to what one has to say, it's time to move on to more productive pursuits.

As most of us know by now, over 50% of American voters just elected an idiotic charlatan and disgusting sexual predator as the president of the United States. Given that KVR membership probably reflects a similar breakdown of voters (for US members, that is,) it's irrational of me to believe that all KVR members would be enlightened thinkers who act in a civil, respectful manner.

Basically, it's better not to engage with angry mobs, either in politics or on Internet forums. LOL.

Urs, best of luck with Repro-1.

Actually, under 50% of American voters just elected Mr. Trump. Good thing you're just as good at fact checking as the person you argued with about UX-based design, even though you called him/her out on it. In case you're curious, you could check up on the electoral college used in the US and the popular vote, and the differences between the two.

[Urs]

Can I reuse, convert, copy/paste or redone my current beta presets in the relase version of RePro-1? I hope at least, to have an access to see the parameters of my beta presets and also RePro's saved presets/settings in the Reaper DAW projects, after when the beta will be over.

The current feature set is good to go. Your presets will sound just about the same in the final version.

[Gadget Fiend]

Have you guys looked at the performance section? There's a way to have a AD mod envelope already included, and it makes ridiculous sounds when coupled with its hard wired routing.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to consider the LFO in Repro-1's distortion module a "Mod Envelope" (even though there are "AR" and "ASR" options). Again, if u-he is going to add features that weren't on the original instrument, why not do so in a more discoverable and intuitive manner?

I'm not sure why that point is so hard for certain members of this forum to grok. Unless the virtual instrument is intended as an exact replica of the original instrument, why not instead retain the spirit (and most importantly the sound) of the original while adding some modern conveniences (e.g., a more intuitive mod section).

It's like with the VW Bug. When Volkswagen brought back the bug a while ago, VW could have just reissued an exact replica of the original using some more modern components (e.g., a heater that actually works). But VW took the opportunity to retain what was fun and distinctive about the original and while still making it a modern, more reliable, and "feature rich" car.

That seems like a better approach than a slavish adherence to outdated designs.

[pdxindy]

You seem like a big baby
for being annoying, Asperger's-suffering twits?
accept your right to be fools
an embarrassing, obnoxious child
Oh Ye of Little Imagination (and any capacity for advanced thought)
Here's a suggestion: Try educating yourself
you appear utterly clueless.

Since I actually endeavor to act like a mature adult

Some room for improvement there...

[Gadget Fiend]

Actually, under 50% of American voters just elected Mr. Trump. Good thing you're just as good at fact checking as the person you argued with about UX-based design, even though you called him/her out on it. In case you're curious, you could check up on the electoral college used in the US and the popular vote, and the differences between the two.

I'm trying to think as little as possible about the outcome of this election. LOL.

But sure, if you want to split hairs and be an officious dweeb, let's just say a "large percentage" of Americans voted for an idiotic charlatan and sexual predator. There are many, many stupid people in this country, some of whom clearly post on KVR.

[Urs]

That seems like a better approach than a slavish adherence to outdated designs.

We're selling this under the "Diva" moniker. So we've been there, done that, and during the forum discussions back there were people argueing just like you, who had just the same set of arguments for the exact opposite: Why don't you do a simple, true to the original monosynth instead of proving once again that u-he can over-complicate things into oblivion for non-geeks.

So here we are. Repro-1 for them, Diva for you.

[Gadget Fiend]

That seems like a better approach than a slavish adherence to outdated designs.

We're selling this under the "Diva" moniker. So we've been there, done that, and during the forum discussions back there were people argueing just like you, who had just the same set of arguments for the exact opposite: Why don't you do a simple, true to the original monosynth instead of proving once again that u-he can over-complicate things into oblivion for non-geeks.

So here we are. Repro-1 for them, Diva for you.

Fair enough.

[liquidsound]

Yes, a mature adult accepts

A good start. Begin the process and apply that to yourself first.