Upcoming Synapse OB-Xa: Obsession

[TheMaestro]

What’s for me to decide? What an emulation’s goal is? That‘s usually decided by the companies/developers.

No, it's up to you to decide what you want/expect from it. i.e. Just because someone wants it to slavishly conform to all the strengths and weaknesses of the original doesn't mean that everybody else has the same expectations. So the developer does what they want to do and we decide whether we want to buy it or not.

This doesn't make sense. You asked "Is that for you to decide?".
You're quite incoherent.

And if you personally are ok with mediocrity, which I’ve come to believe you are, don’t argue for that for everyone else. Just state it clearly for yourself.

That's my problem, I won't put up with mediocrity and too many emulations are mediocre, in that they bring all the weak points in with the strengths. e.g. Legend could be a much better synth if it wasn't saddled with that Dog-awful ladder filter. Similarly, the OB-Xa would be a much better synth if Oberheim hadn't decided on a ladder filter for their 4 pole LPF, which they likely did to keep costs down, not because it was the best sounding option available to them. That is the strength of Diva - you can pick and choose the best bits from a number of emulations to make something that is better than any straight emulation. You don't have to settle for mediocrity.

You wont put up with mediocrity, but argues the use of sub-par synths and "if it sound good to you". Again, so incoherent and arguing just for the sake of it.

You don't even seem to understand the concept of an emulation, because they could be better if they didn't emulate the filter (and whatnot) from the original?
Christ...

And why anyone mentions Diva when talking about emulations is beyond me.
It doesn't sound analog. In a blind test between Diva and analog hardware, people chose Diva as the analog hardware.

[TheMaestro]

Quoting champ 2020

[zerocrossing]

What’s for me to decide? What an emulation’s goal is? That‘s usually decided by the companies/developers.

No, it's up to you to decide what you want/expect from it. i.e. Just because someone wants it to slavishly conform to all the strengths and weaknesses of the original doesn't mean that everybody else has the same expectations. So the developer does what they want to do and we decide whether we want to buy it or not.

And if you personally are ok with mediocrity, which I’ve come to believe you are, don’t argue for that for everyone else. Just state it clearly for yourself.

That's my problem, I won't put up with mediocrity and too many emulations are mediocre, in that they bring all the weak points in with the strengths. e.g. Legend could be a much better synth if it wasn't saddled with that Dog-awful ladder filter. Similarly, the OB-Xa would be a much better synth if Oberheim hadn't decided on a ladder filter for their 4 pole LPF, which they likely did to keep costs down, not because it was the best sounding option available to them. That is the strength of Diva - you can pick and choose the best bits from a number of emulations to make something that is better than any straight emulation. You don't have to settle for mediocrity.

Your needle is stuck.

[Teksonik]

The people with the strongest opinions are almost always the most clueless and better off put on ignore.

That's a pretty strong opinion......

[Teksonik]

And why anyone mentions Diva when talking about emulations is beyond me.
It doesn't sound analog. In a blind test between Diva and analog hardware, people chose Diva as the analog hardware.

I've never seen someone so convincingly argue with himself and lose all in the same two sentences. Very impressive.

[BONES]

The downside is that you just won't get a "full" Oberheim emulation in Diva.

If you read the thread, I am not interested in an emulation, I'm interested in a better synth and I think most people would agree that Moog oscillators coupled to the SEM filter would give you that.

I guess neither Legend nor Obsession are really your thing because you dislike certain things on the original synths. Which is fair enough, and you're better off with other synths then which are more to your liking.

Nothing wrong with OBSession, it's absolutely amazing. The 4 pole filter might not be terribly useful but the 2 pole filter is great.

[Yorrrrrr]

The filters provided are great, but I wouldn't mind if Richard includes a SEM in one of those future updates.

[BONES]

I imagine he'd need to have access to a SEM to do it properly and SEMs are really expensive.

[Yorrrrrr]

Anyone here with a spare SEM equipped Oberheim and send it to Richard, please?

[vitocorleone123]

Resonance is one of the easy ways to separate out the best from the rest, in terms of analog softsynths (esp emulations). Seems that analog resonance and noise is really hard to replicate. So far.

I think that preset will be in the next Microfreak....

[Teksonik]

Ok there's something wonky going on with the board. Quotes are being closed without the end quote characters.

[Teksonik]

Resonance is one of the easy ways to separate out the best from the rest, in terms of analog softsynths (esp emulations). Seems that analog resonance and noise is really hard to replicate. So far.

I think that preset will be in the next Microfreak....


Ok there's something wonky going on with the board. Quotes are being closed without the end quote characters. There are no end quotes at all in this post.

[wagtunes]

LMAO! You guys broke the boards

[Teksonik]

I guess so....perhaps that's not such a bad thing after all......

[BONES]

Anyone here with a spare SEM equipped Oberheim and send it to Richard, please?

If he's gonna do it, we want him to do the full SEM multi-mode, morphing filter, not just the LP one on the OB-X. The same thing as you get with Pigments.