There's no difference in price. The TRackS plug-in comes with both VST and RTAS in the same box. I think you might be refering to TRackS 24? That's a stand alone version which is a little bit less money than the plug-in version. Is that what you meant?Stupid American Pig wrote:So the difference in price is just for the fun of it?Squids wrote: 7. Is PC VST version of T-Racks is as good as the one that is made for Protools?
PC VST vs. RTAS? Yes, it is the same.
IK CSR Reverb - few days to go :)
- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
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- KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
I seemed to remember sweetwater charging different prices for the 2, but now that I think about it its the Waves that carry the 50% price increase to RTAS. my fault.
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- KVRist
- 31 posts since 4 Nov, 2005
Well, 480L is THE “Classic STUDIO reverb” and so is M6000 and so is PCM90/91 etc…I’m not trying to be cynical or argumentative, I just want to get a bit clearer idea of where to place CSR. Would you say that it is as good as… a $50 Alesis Nanoverb? (which is also excellent considering its cost. I use one for my flower potsIt is a reverb with the sound and features of a "classic STUDIO reverb". I didn't say it IS a 480L or an M6000
- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
More like the Lexicons in the $2,000+ category than an Alesis reverb. Obviously. Even just by looking at the specs you will be able to see it is a deeply programmable and powerful piece.DannyZ wrote:Well, 480L is THE “Classic STUDIO reverb” and so is M6000 and so is PCM90/91 etc…I’m not trying to be cynical or argumentative, I just want to get a bit clearer idea of where to place CSR. Would you say that it is as good as… a $50 Alesis Nanoverb? (which is also excellent considering its cost. I use one for my flower potsIt is a reverb with the sound and features of a "classic STUDIO reverb". I didn't say it IS a 480L or an M6000).
But, interesting that you'd bring up Alesis because for the price of a Quadraverb you can have CSR which will give you the sound and programmability of a much more expensive outboard reverb.
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- KVRer
- 29 posts since 23 Jan, 2006
Finally, I hear some answers that are more specific. I think I’m going to buy this reverb.More like the Lexicons in the $2,000+ category than an Alesis reverb. Obviously. Even just by looking at the specs you will be able to see it is a deeply programmable and powerful piece.
But, interesting that you'd bring up Alesis because for the price of a Quadraverb you can have CSR which will give you the sound and programmability of a much more expensive outboard reverb.
Thanks
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- KVRian
- 1144 posts since 26 Sep, 2005 from Germany
Hey squids,Squids wrote:More like the Lexicons in the $2,000+ category than an Alesis reverb. Obviously. Even just by looking at the specs you will be able to see it is a deeply programmable and powerful piece.DannyZ wrote:Well, 480L is THE “Classic STUDIO reverb” and so is M6000 and so is PCM90/91 etc…I’m not trying to be cynical or argumentative, I just want to get a bit clearer idea of where to place CSR. Would you say that it is as good as… a $50 Alesis Nanoverb? (which is also excellent considering its cost. I use one for my flower potsIt is a reverb with the sound and features of a "classic STUDIO reverb". I didn't say it IS a 480L or an M6000).
But, interesting that you'd bring up Alesis because for the price of a Quadraverb you can have CSR which will give you the sound and programmability of a much more expensive outboard reverb.
Thank you for all that information.
When you have the CSR plug-in, you could probably do some demo samples at more than 90%/10% dry/wet level?
Would be very nice to listen to the reverb quality...
Best regards....
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- KVRian
- 1144 posts since 26 Sep, 2005 from Germany
why would you think so.kmonkey wrote:I am tellin ya. This is going to be another Amplitube yadayada
it is a totally different developer....
I think at least hope it will be a killer tool.
At least we need a professional VST reverb, as there is not one single one out there that has many parameter and good sound....
okay there good ones(AAR,MR5,RaySpace,Convo,...) , but none is perfect and I still miss the ultimate plug in that area...
- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Okay. We'll make some plans to do extra demos of it for esoundz. I am surprised how many pre-orders we have for it already though. Mostly crossgraders however. Makes sense. All you have to do is buy the cheapest IK product you can find and you qualify for the crossgrade to it which saves you some bucks. There's even some stores like Guitar Center selling this and that Expansion Tank for below cost sometimes or there are free OEM versions that come with certain products from Emu, Mackie, Digidesign that you may not have even known that you qualify for the crossgrade.hifiboom wrote:Hey squids,Squids wrote:More like the Lexicons in the $2,000+ category than an Alesis reverb. Obviously. Even just by looking at the specs you will be able to see it is a deeply programmable and powerful piece.DannyZ wrote:Well, 480L is THE “Classic STUDIO reverb” and so is M6000 and so is PCM90/91 etc…I’m not trying to be cynical or argumentative, I just want to get a bit clearer idea of where to place CSR. Would you say that it is as good as… a $50 Alesis Nanoverb? (which is also excellent considering its cost. I use one for my flower potsIt is a reverb with the sound and features of a "classic STUDIO reverb". I didn't say it IS a 480L or an M6000).
But, interesting that you'd bring up Alesis because for the price of a Quadraverb you can have CSR which will give you the sound and programmability of a much more expensive outboard reverb.
Thank you for all that information.
When you have the CSR plug-in, you could probably do some demo samples at more than 90%/10% dry/wet level?
Would be very nice to listen to the reverb quality...
Best regards....
So, what do you want to hear through it? Vocals? Dry orchestral stuff? Drums? Guitars? All of the above? We're busy with the group buy right now but maybe in a couple of weeks we can do some custom AT2 and CSR demos. I will try a few things that are requested in the forum. Can't promise anything but we'll try to accomodate.
Oh, as for shipping, all of the parts have to come back together like the discs, the manuals, the boxes etc. and there are a LOT of stores all over the world getting them so it takes a little time for that part. However, it is done and will probably shipping some time next week or so. AmpliTube 2 not that longer after. A cool couple of months for IK software! (Ampeg next month I think as well).
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- KVRAF
- 2054 posts since 3 Jun, 2001 from Not far from Australia
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- KVRist
- 125 posts since 7 Jan, 2004 from London, UK
ohmigawd maybe this thread will balloon to 178 or whatever it is on the "Amplitube out this month!" thread. IK must surely be the butt of all jokes now.
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- KVRAF
- 2054 posts since 3 Jun, 2001 from Not far from Australia
Thanks Squids, did you find out yet ?Squids wrote:Hi ReneMidiworks wrote:@Squids
So, how much cpu does it use please ?
(Big Hall > P4 2ghz XX% ect.)
Thanks
I will try to find that out when I have a moment.
PS. Good luck with your amp. Looks cool.
Cant take that long to look at the cpu meter.
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- KVRian
- 568 posts since 17 Dec, 2003 from Under the Overtones
the classical way is to do individual soloed tracks with dry/wet comparisons... DONT DO THAT plzSquids wrote: So, what do you want to hear through it? Vocals? Dry orchestral stuff? Drums? Guitars? All of the above?
i want it in a real situation like these:
1. use several instances in a mix(inserts on guitar, voice, drums et.c), this is how its used and will reveal how well it sounds in the end, soloed reverbs are like fat synths... thay take to much place in the mix. the demo audio will be the complete mix of both dry and then with reverbs
2. use one or two on the 2 buss / aux buss and use it on a complete mix... thats also revealing and usefull.
use mixed material as fast gated drums with slow evolving pads and so on...
my 2 cents



