I think Rock & Roll is the Devil's music.
There. I said it.
Show me some melody in modern electronic music.
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- KVRAF
- 4584 posts since 21 Sep, 2005
I think you're right.kbaccki wrote:I think Rock & Roll is the Devil's music.
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- KVRAF
- 7854 posts since 20 Jan, 2008
@AM Gold.
I had to bring something you mentioned back a few pages ago. J-Pop. I loved much j-pop both the cheeky and the more complex musical ideas. However forget japan as a market. They(the japanese) have become obsessed with K-Pop.
BoA and Psy are the movers and shakers in the asian market.
I had to bring something you mentioned back a few pages ago. J-Pop. I loved much j-pop both the cheeky and the more complex musical ideas. However forget japan as a market. They(the japanese) have become obsessed with K-Pop.
BoA and Psy are the movers and shakers in the asian market.
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- Banned
- 2033 posts since 19 Jun, 2011 from a world of Black Thunder chocs
tapper mike wrote:@AM Gold.
I had to bring something you mentioned back a few pages ago. J-Pop. I loved much j-pop both the cheeky and the more complex musical ideas. However forget japan as a market. They(the japanese) have become obsessed with K-Pop.
BoA and Psy are the movers and shakers in the asian market.
This is partly right, Mike. Japanese people are certainly obsessed with K-Pop.
However, both ARASHI (from Japan) and One Direction (UK) are currently cleaning up rather well over here. Not to mention the ever enduring list of favourites, such as Mr Children, EXILE, Greeeeeeeen and Nishino Kana - all from Japan.
Conversely, former J-Pop favourites AKB48 and Hamasaki Ayumi look pretty finished now.
You may be right about BoA and Psy in the rest of the Asian market, but certainly with my Sendai teenagers, they feature pretty low down the list of favourites.
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- KVRAF
- 4329 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
Well, this seems like a subject for another thread even though this one never had anything to do with its subject, but-
I DJed for many years. (vinyl, 1200s..)
I got into production, and in my head it seemed like a "natural" progression. Or, it at least seemed like a very related thing to be doing.
Its not. They are damn near opposite skills. Its really weird. And, really frustrating imo, to try and hone both skills at the same time.
For sure, experience DJing feeds any production efforts, but Im not sure about the other way around. I dont think a producer necessarily has the first clue about DJing a live room.
I threw myself into production eventually and didnt have time to keep DJing, but part of the change was definitely the frustration of the skillsets not really being related.
For me its basically down to production being wide open, infinite, and DJing being limited for various reasons both technical and aesthetic.
DJing is still fun as shit though.
But, thats because I assumed this thread was actually about electronic music.
Its not really.
OP and some others here dont seem to really know what it is. No offense. But many of the posts here are really talking about two different things.
Zen had to explain what happens on a dancefloor ffs.
I DJed for many years. (vinyl, 1200s..)
I got into production, and in my head it seemed like a "natural" progression. Or, it at least seemed like a very related thing to be doing.
Its not. They are damn near opposite skills. Its really weird. And, really frustrating imo, to try and hone both skills at the same time.
For sure, experience DJing feeds any production efforts, but Im not sure about the other way around. I dont think a producer necessarily has the first clue about DJing a live room.
I threw myself into production eventually and didnt have time to keep DJing, but part of the change was definitely the frustration of the skillsets not really being related.
For me its basically down to production being wide open, infinite, and DJing being limited for various reasons both technical and aesthetic.
DJing is still fun as shit though.
I agree.Aiynzahev wrote: I think learning to DJ is at least as, if not more, important than learning how to play an instrument.
But, thats because I assumed this thread was actually about electronic music.
Its not really.
OP and some others here dont seem to really know what it is. No offense. But many of the posts here are really talking about two different things.
Zen had to explain what happens on a dancefloor ffs.
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- KVRAF
- 7854 posts since 20 Jan, 2008
Re Ayumi Hamasaki
Now that's a career. I'll be honest I don't know that much about the Japanese market. However, if she had that type of track record in the states she wouldn't have to make another record. Simply lay low for a few years and then have a comeback tour.
Now that's a career. I'll be honest I don't know that much about the Japanese market. However, if she had that type of track record in the states she wouldn't have to make another record. Simply lay low for a few years and then have a comeback tour.
Dell Vostro i9 64GB Ram Windows 11 Pro, Cubase, Bitwig, Mixcraft Guitar Pod Go, Linntrument Nektar P1, Novation Launchpad
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- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Melbourne, Australia
I'm certain this will fall on deaf ears, but if the OP or anyone else wants to experience the feeling of the EDM dance floor vibe but without the dirty hippies or techno heads, this is the answer:
Gabrielle Roth's 5Rhythms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5Rhythms
There will be somewhere in your city where people gather to practice the 5Rhythms. It's related to ecstatic dance, trance dancing, shamanic ritual, and by extension rave dancing. It will help with relaxation too, which is always beneficial.
Get on the case!
Peace,
Andy.
Gabrielle Roth's 5Rhythms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5Rhythms
There will be somewhere in your city where people gather to practice the 5Rhythms. It's related to ecstatic dance, trance dancing, shamanic ritual, and by extension rave dancing. It will help with relaxation too, which is always beneficial.
Get on the case!
Peace,
Andy.
... space is the place ...
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- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Melbourne, Australia
Without trust, none of the above will happen.Tricky-Loops wrote:Trust or drugs?ZenPunkHippy wrote:When I've reached an appropriate level of trance my body is submitted wholly to the the performer and the technology. I am no longer listening to music but rather: guiding waves of light. There is a lot of trust required for this to happen.
Peace,
Andy.
... space is the place ...
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- Banned
- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
IMHO the best producers of dance music are DJ's with a musical background who can play one or more instruments. Because they know what works on the dancefloor and what not.
I don't know if any of you know this Romanian studio, but they're making some of the greatest dance songs of the world (If I ever could meet them, I would be happy for my whole life ):
http://www.hahahaproduction.com/en/
These are guys with (classical) musical training since childhood - DJ's, rappers, beatmakers, musicians and so on.
I DON'T think that every child can make good melodic dance music with a DAW and the i-Phone, there are much more skills required.
I don't know if any of you know this Romanian studio, but they're making some of the greatest dance songs of the world (If I ever could meet them, I would be happy for my whole life
):http://www.hahahaproduction.com/en/
These are guys with (classical) musical training since childhood - DJ's, rappers, beatmakers, musicians and so on.
I DON'T think that every child can make good melodic dance music with a DAW and the i-Phone, there are much more skills required.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111294 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
ie trusting someone to get good pills inZenPunkHippy wrote:Without trust, none of the above will happen.Tricky-Loops wrote:Trust or drugs?ZenPunkHippy wrote:When I've reached an appropriate level of trance my body is submitted wholly to the the performer and the technology. I am no longer listening to music but rather: guiding waves of light. There is a lot of trust required for this to happen.
Peace,
Andy.
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- KVRAF
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
Or you can get barefoot, put on some music that makes you feel good and dance in your living room or bedroom. You'll soon find out which music brings out the trance in you and which doesn't.ZenPunkHippy wrote:I'm certain this will fall on deaf ears, but if the OP or anyone else wants to experience the feeling of the EDM dance floor vibe but without the dirty hippies or techno heads, this is the answer:
Gabrielle Roth's 5Rhythms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5Rhythms
There will be somewhere in your city where people gather to practice the 5Rhythms. It's related to ecstatic dance, trance dancing, shamanic ritual, and by extension rave dancing. It will help with relaxation too, which is always beneficial.
Get on the case!
Peace,
Andy.
http://sendy.bandcamp.com/releases < My new album at Bandcamp! Now pay what you like!
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- KVRAF
- 4329 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
I have found that a certain amount of wattage is also a requirement to really 'get there.'
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- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Melbourne, Australia
SWIM says "maybe ..."vurt wrote:ie trusting someone to get good pills in
And yes massive wattage helps
... space is the place ...
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- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Melbourne, Australia
True enough, but I think it helps to be around other people. Otherwise, our inhibitions will not be challenged.Sendy wrote:Or you can get barefoot, put on some music that makes you feel good and dance in your living room or bedroom. You'll soon find out which music brings out the trance in you and which doesn't.
Peace,
Andy.
... space is the place ...
