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Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:32 pm

best sci-fi movie ever.... willy wonka.

-R

bert

clueless · Post by **clueless** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:40 pm

...actually, why not?

or the original Solaris

or Dark Star

can't think of any others that have gone beyond entertainment

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:42 pm

Robert Randolph wrote:best sci-fi movie ever.... willy wonka.

-R bert

It's rather scathing commentary on the Human Condition couldn't be masked even in a river of chocolate..

Good choice

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:50 pm

(snipped a bit)

sickle666 wrote:
Robert Randolph wrote:best sci-fi movie ever.... willy wonka.
It's rather scathing commentary on the Human Condition couldn't be masked even in a river of chocolate..

"No. Don't. Stop." -- W. Wonka, quite unconcernedly

Meffy

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:54 pm

Don't know if anyone mentioned this one, but Forbidden Planet is one of the few 1950s classics I consider to be genuine science fiction (as opposed to space fantasy, horror in futuristic settings, etc. -- those are fine, I just think of them as a different category).

Not only that, I believe it was the first feature film whose soundtrack was made entirely using electronic instruments.

An impressive film even today. Shakespeare and Freud join forces against the U.S. Flying Saucer Corps. :-) Wonderful old-school blaster video effects.

Meffy

Sleek Month · Post by **Sleek Month** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:14 pm

When worlds collide

...and...

Them

...and...

Tarantula

...and...

Robinson Crusoe on Mars.

My pre-Star Wars favorites.

-S.

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:16 pm

Meffy wrote:(snipped a bit)

sickle666 wrote:
Robert Randolph wrote:best sci-fi movie ever.... willy wonka.
It's rather scathing commentary on the Human Condition couldn't be masked even in a river of chocolate..
"No. Don't. Stop." -- W. Wonka, quite unconcernedly

Meffy

in an excited tone as a child is about to die....

"The suspense is terrible!! ... I hope it'll last" -wonka

taji · Post by **taji** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:46 pm

Dottie wrote:I would stand all night in the rain to get tickets to see 'A scanner Darkly' IF (and I mean big capitals here...) it is made properly. That is a hell of a book.

http://www.philipkdick.com/films_scanner-061204.html

Richard Linklater is the director. He's from in Austin (where I live). His choices for direction are all over the map (Before Sunrise/Sunset, School of Rock!, Waking Life, Slacker, Dazed and Confused, etc) but practically everything he's done has been above average to masterpiece level work. He's using the "animation-overlaying-live-action" technology he used in Waking Life. I've seen some more recent clips and the detail has improved drastically. I'm sensing a home run on this one. Can't wait.

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:27 pm

no one mentionned that LEXX germano-canadian show.

It's certainly the most kitsch scifi show, ultracheap CG, ultrakitsch characters (one of them is a dead robert smith clone, another is an old dumb guy, and the main bimbo character is a different actress in each season).

http://www.scifi.com/lexx/

If you take it seriously you'll hate it, but if you don't, it's very interesting. It's dumb, dark, and did I mention kitsch?

Cabinfever · Post by **Cabinfever** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:46 pm

dark star.

real space-time considerations, real physics, lots of black comedy, and the greatest all-analog synth soundtrack of any movie ever.

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:01 pm

Cabinfever wrote:dark star.

real space-time considerations, real physics, lots of black comedy, and the greatest all-analog synth soundtrack of any movie ever.

Not to mention the only Beach Ball alien in Cinema History

GaryG · Post by **GaryG** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:04 pm

gol wrote:no one mentionned that LEXX germano-canadian show.

someone mentioned "worship his shadow", i was wondering if that was Lexx under a different name...?

whatever, great show! funny, inventive, irreverent, sexy... everything Star Trek isn't

Faded towards the end, didn't even watch the final series all the way (when they reached earth)

GaryG · Post by **GaryG** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:28 pm

Dingo865 wrote:Uh, sorry if I came across a bit curt; I got the impression from your message that you never managed to see it in its entirety.

no worries, i understood where you were coming from. my message was a little hurried (at work...) and could have been clearer (like 2001, <snigger>

)

Ford Prefect: Fantastic Planet

Alright! I'm not the only person then to have seen this! Trippy...

Actually, that's reminded mr of Fantastic Voyage (minisub going through the guys body to clear a blood clot or something). My fave B for sure.

Tetraplan : Death to eXiStenZ! Long live The New Flesh!

Ah! 'Videodrome'! Forgot that one! Way ahead of it's time.

Tetraplan : Anyone seen The Quiet Earth?

i think so... New Zealand or Australian movie? Rifts in space? Last man alive scenario? Good solid sci-fi.

woolyloach : hmm.. I'd go for "Forbidden Planet", I loved the underground Krell machinery!

so many people have made good points about FP I don't have much to add but still a fave of mine. I *love* the scenes with the Krell generators etc, matte paintings I guess. A lost art with all this CGI malarky...

Open question: what do people think of the scene where the creature from the Id trys to get through the barrier? Apparently the actual monster was added afterwards (Disney animated it I believe) to make things more exciting. Some people claim it ruins the film, i find it hard to be objective when it's the only version i've seen... does look a little 'comic book' against the rest of the film.

.g

(i really should join a movie forum...)

wannabe · Post by **wannabe** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:42 am

STARWARS -
the first trilogy (no matter what this Goerge-Lucas-asshole (sorry!) is planning how to DECONSTRUCT his own masterpiece in the future (and present)).

ALIEN I & II -
Completely different movies. Both milestones.

2001 -
Caught this one late, but was catched completely.

BLADERUNNER -
I loved this one from the first second: the music. the atmosphere, the plot (yes, the directorscut is the best), the actors : everything just fits.

MATRIX -
It's so sad, solely the first one, the others are just popcorn.

OMEGAMAN (is this the original title ?) with Charlton Heston -
much better than all of the dawn-of-the-daed-stuff imo (ok, i was 12 and watched it on my first own B/W-15inch-TV around 2:00 AM (with -12 dB

) but won't forget how it keeps me thinking (and being scared) for days).

DARK STAR -
More a comedy, but added with serious scifi-thoughts, was miles ahead (couldn't believe it when i first watched it

).
[funny enough, the making-of on the DVD of ALIEN DIRECTORS CUT discovers that Mr. Dan O'Bannon wanted to create a serious version of DARK STAR with ALIEN...(a-ha!)]

VANILLA SKY (for me the remake is more to the point than the original) -
and yes, this IS ScienceFiction (what else than playing mindgames is SciFi anyway?)

SOLARIS -
Mister Clooney showed me the real meaning of this classic (the original is more a contemporary document of soviet movieart of a certain decade to me)

i've got to mention the LORD OF THE RINGS TRILOGY -

this is a completely altered universe, for that it's Science Fiction for me. And this are great movies !!!

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:49 am

this is a completely altered universe, for that it's Science Fiction for me

that's fantasy, not science fiction. Unless I missed the plot and all of the orks were droids.

Scifi fans: what is your favorite CLASSIC SF movie ?