Arturia drops Acid V

[egbert101]

Found a silly bug when used in Reaper. Doesn't save a project with the Hold state set to on in the sequencer! Bizarre!

[RunBeerRun]

I just got the demo, not as corrosive as the ad suggests. Not too bad, huge gui that I had to resize, at least there's sequencer presets.

It stands as 4 heads of cabbage out of 4.

[Hanz Meyzer]

Below is a comparison with settings matched as best as I could. First 16 beats is Acid V, then Phoscyon 2, repeated.

Acid V seems to fit better into rhythm, thanks due variable attack shape or so? Acid V sounds more fresh anytime, I like that, no ugly degration from analog world.

[davidka]

FR: Do you think it is possible to add a strong charactered formant filter (like in Lush-101) as a sequencable effect in an update?

[aykin974]

Acid V likely will be included in Arturia's V Collection X.
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Ok thanks

[DrGonzo]

So what do you think the chances are we'll be seeing Arturia doing 909, 808 and 606 emulations in the future?

[Septic Underground]

So what do you think the chances are we'll be seeing Arturia doing 909, 808 and 606 emulations in the future?

depends on how active the roland attorneys are after releasing the acid v, which is clearly a tb303 in looks and feel. I guess it will take a while to test the waters so to say.

Roland is very strict on not using their legacy product names/logos/layouts. Certainly when a high profile player like Arturia would do it.

Behringer got away, but we dont know what was settled as compensation in the background. I can't imagine Roland giving Behringer a free pass.

[kmonkey]

Behringer got away, but we dont know what was settled as compensation in the background. I can't imagine Roland giving Behringer a free pass.

Nothing was settled you are assuming things. A company can make a tad different design and no one can do anything about it.

Besides which art/part/design do you think Roland has or holds the "rights"? Tell me.

A square case - nope
A sequencer layout - nope (probably inherited from someone else's anyway)
A knob? - big nope

A color, branding and design - yes

Everything else is a moot point. Take Distressor for example. This is form their own website:

Born of founder Dave Derr's love of classic compressors like the 1176, LA-2A, and Gain Brain (among others), the Distressor incorporates his favorite sonic characteristics of these, along with other unique and interesting features that have made it a staple for audio engineers all over the world.

So how it happen that he got away with incorporating "favorite sonic characteristics" without UA suing him? It is because he did the same thing in a different way.

Do you think the very first maker of a TV device should hold the right to make TV screen-specific size in RATIO Thus everyone else should make rounded screens.

My point is there is not much to what you are assuming. Everyone is copying everyone. Unless it is blatantly the same no one is in trouble.

[DrGonzo]

Everyone is copying everyone. Unless it is blatantly the same no one is in trouble.

Yeah I agree. I doubt Mike Janney of Audio Realism paid any legal fees to Roland to use the 303 as foundation. Or D16. The design of the X0X boxes have been copied hundreds of times by now.

But I am curious if Arturia would go 909, 808 and 606. On one hand it feels like the natural progression now when Acid V is out, but after Spark they haven't done much when it comes to drums. I wonder why. I mean, I doubt their coders would have any difficulties recreating those sounds.

[Septic Underground]

Behringer got away, but we dont know what was settled as compensation in the background. I can't imagine Roland giving Behringer a free pass.

Nothing was settled you are assuming things. A company can make a tad different design and no one can do anything about it.

Like I said, we don't know. Great to read you do know now it was not settled ??? What are your sources?

Roland did exactly that in the past (REbirt338, Cyclonic Bassbot etc)
Also Behringer did change the prototype due to Rolands demands.

[Septic Underground]

Everyone is copying everyone. Unless it is blatantly the same no one is in trouble.

Yeah I agree. I doubt Mike Janney of Audio Realism paid any legal fees to Roland to use the 303 as foundation. Or D16. The design of the X0X boxes have been copied hundreds of times by now.

But I am curious if Arturia would go 909, 808 and 606. On one hand it feels like the natural progression now when Acid V is out, but after Spark they haven't done much when it comes to drums. I wonder why. I mean, I doubt their coders would have any difficulties recreating those sounds.

I just hope Arturia would release a drumplug with all vintage and current roland drumssounds in them (both analogue and romsounds) Just a 16 part multi io drumbox with pulldown menu for sounds per part for a extensive lib of 1000s of samples, a sort of WA Drumvolution, but with all models instead of only 505/606/707/808/909. The roland R8 series had many cool romsounds. But I guess when Triaz releases we can get the WA Triaz to do this if Arturia wont

[Lbdunequest]

I have to admit, this is the best TB "emulation" that actually gets it how to improve. Sound is one thing, but ease of use is another and Arturia's piano roll is the best so far to do actual sequences with modulation. Its so easy to use + with aditional modulation. Im going to buy this. Its really inviting to use. Bravo Arturia.

[Septic Underground]

yeah it replaced my abl3, not because it sounds better, but it is more fun and a bit more tweaks/fx possible instead of a very strict 303 emulation.

[DashOfLime]

So what do you think the chances are we'll be seeing Arturia doing 909, 808 and 606 emulations in the future?

depends on how active the roland attorneys are after releasing the acid v, which is clearly a tb303 in looks and feel. I guess it will take a while to test the waters so to say.

Roland is very strict on not using their legacy product names/logos/layouts. Certainly when a high profile player like Arturia would do it.

You're ignoring the fact that Arturia already ships several Roland emulations as part of V Collection, one of which has existed for well over a decade. That one, Jup-8v, was modified in the past to change the graphics to not match the real Jupiter-8 so closely as well as the name change (used to be Jupiter-8V). So no, I don't think Roland is going to care at all given they already have arrangements.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

KVR is certainly no place for legal advice. I'm sure Arturia knows what they're doing as do their actual lawyers who do this for a living and get paid. They've been in the game a long time. I'm sure D16 and others know as well (even if they learned the hard way). Most people here don't even seem to understand the distinctions between trade dress, trademarks, copyrights, and patents.

Now, if a developer made an unlicensed Distressor clone and it looked a bit too much like the real thing and someone said, "hey, Empirical has a trademark on those big white knobs, so don't use those in your Distressor clone without getting the ok [same for API]", I'd think, ok, that person at least knows a little about what's going on. But AcidV is fine.