Arturia V Collection X -- Release Thread

[briefcasemanx]

With all the incredibly powerful synths at our fingertips these days the MiniMoog is a toy..

This makes complete sense coming from the perspective of someone who doesn't actually make music with their plugins.

I don't see a point in arguing with the initial statement. You're suggesting that no other synth can be used instead. If your production or workflow is so limited that no other synth can be used, it's up to you. However, any contemporary synth can produce a wide spectrum of sounds suitable for various genres of music. I can name a few: Dune, Pigments, Spire, and the list goes on. Even the KVR's One Synth Challenge threads showcase this better than any words.

Sorry, my statement was meant for people that have ears and can see the forest for the trees.

It's increasingly apparent that this particular forum attracts a lot of people that lack in both these areas. Make sure to reply arguing about technical specs though, to prove my point.

[Scotty]

Calling a synth a toy is high praise in my book. Anything that brings enjoyment and stimulates creativity shouldn't be dismissed as having little value or importance. Perhaps we need a new word for which to slander our playthings.

With all the incredibly powerful synths at our fingertips these days the MiniMoog is a toy..

This makes complete sense coming from the perspective of someone who doesn't actually make music with their plugins.

[JerGoertz]

Calling a synth a toy is high praise in my book. Anything that brings enjoyment and stimulates creativity shouldn't be dismissed as having little value or importance. Perhaps we need a new word for which to slander our playthings.

A woobie?

[dlandis]

Not everyone buys 800 synth plugins

Sir, what you are saying makes no sense.

Cops - pls arrest him.

I agree; I don't get it.

Does this mean I have to give some back?

[electro]

Superior options such as Pianoteq and UAD Electra88 exist, but for a starter package V Collection X is comprehensive covering a lot of ground. The Clav (V Collection 6 and higher) is not bad.

[Septic Underground]

I love the keys and organs in the Arturia Collection. The farfisa/pianos/solina/vox etc.
really a great selection of plugins.

Dont care too much on the poly-analog modelled ones (I prefer TAL / U-he / Softube / Gforce for those sounds) , but love the early semi-digital stuff like the SQ80/DX7/CZ/EMulator/Fairlight/Synclavier etc. I do use the Arturia OBXA a lot next to the Gforce version though.

[Scotty]

Calling a synth a toy is high praise in my book. Anything that brings enjoyment and stimulates creativity shouldn't be dismissed as having little value or importance. Perhaps we need a new word for which to slander our playthings.

A woobie?

I had to look it up but it is it ticking all the boxes. Kudos.

[Gavincoolguy]

I think its all hilarious just the wave of discontent from obviously enraptured people. I wouldn't discourage it. It reminds me of being a kid on the playground arguing the merits of a TurboGrafx 16 over a Genesis and really what we were doing as kids were exploring to the boundaries of things that at first seemed limitless. I have spent an insane amount of time and money on real vs emulation and everything fpga in-between when it comes to videogames/old computers and the complainers are just as important to the process so hopefully Arturia and everyone else gets a decent laugh out of it and maybe some direction for the future.

[noiseboyuk]

I think there's two sides to this. On the one hand, it's obvious to me that analog synths in particular are now almost as much primary colours in music as guitars and trumpets. Just as the Fender Strat will never die, nor will the Minimoog. Of course even the humble analog synth is much more versatile sonically than the trumpet, but it's now just another colour.

On the other hand, it's equally true that we've had fantastic Minimoog emulations for many years, so yet another one is inevitably going to produce stifled yawns no matter now good it is. I get the argument that the mighty V Collection needs a solid one (though it's kinda funny how many people are saying "but the old one was better cos it could do such and such"). Rapidly we hit the point where people obsess over not just A/B shootouts between very similar products, but A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z shootouts, before arguing loudly why they are all total crap except for N and no listen to me here's why. In a mix with a skilled musician / producer, likely none of us could tell the difference.

So however much I love synths - and I really really do - this does feel a little disappointing for X to be covering such familiar ground. But the truth is that well beyond analog, almost any new synth they release is only going to be a slight variation. I know there's a thread about synths yet to be emulated, but very very few will add anything demonstrably new even if they released every single one in 11. It's a very mature marketplace, and the law of diminishing returns kicked in a long time ago.

All of which leaves one thing - very cheap deals. I still buy the damn stuff when it's cheap enough, and one day X almost certainly will be.

[Atlatnesiti]

FYI; For Arturia V 9 users…
All V9 versions of existing plugins are updated to V10 versions including Arturia download centre.

[v1o]

Now the YouTubers have to do new comparison videos because the Arturia Mini Moog wasn't competitive enough before to be in the running for the best Moog emulation.

[jamcat]

Arturia Mini V4 vs UADx Moog Minimoog vs a real Minimoog Model D would be an interesting shootout. None others need apply.

[egbert101]

5000$ real Minimoog vs. 5000$ Arturia V Collection X.

[bonch]

The CS80 is one of the best known synths in the business. If the MM is more popular then that says a lot more about the current user base than Arturia's skill.

Synth nerds like the CS-80, but I don't think it's a mainstream synth. Big, complicated, and not as simple to use or as recognizable as the Minimoog. The CS-80's place in history has more to do with its capabilities as a performance instrument and its expensive rarity.

[noiseboyuk]

Arturia Mini V4 vs UADx Moog Minimoog vs a real Minimoog Model D would be an interesting shootout. None others need apply.

Rapidly we hit the point where people obsess over not just A/B shootouts between very similar products, but A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z shootouts, before arguing loudly why they are all total crap except for N and no listen to me here's why.