TAL-Pha Released! Alpha Juno II Emulation from TAL-Software

[Lbdunequest]

This synth has a nice sound, but if Tal made some additions i wonder why he didnt add another envelope.

Concerning emulations the question always is: how much additions can be added without loosing the original character of the instrument. Keeping one env but with more stages is a nice compromise I think.

Eh nope, not only stage envelopes but much more:
1. Each waveform has a volume fader
2. Waveform finetune
3. Added another saw wave
4. Sync

I dont complain about any of those, i think its a very welcome addition, just those are quite synth characteristics changing additions and additional envelope is something that is very useful aswel but not added. Just seem weird.

[Chris-S]

Small typo in user manual (p. 9): "Save default preset" is actually "Set default preset".

[Chris-S]

FX Lock in not working on the EQ, as stated in the user manual.

[gentleclockdivider]

It's an alpha juno emu , why compare it to a sem ?

Because they are both synthesisers and they mostly get used for exactly the same shit.

DCo versus vco
mono versus poly
etc..
And...it has added features not found on the original
-osc sync
-osc detune
-sharper reso .

Yet despite all that, still far less useful and/or versatile. Which is my point. It's just a simple synth with a few extra bits that won't extend its usefulness at all. e.g. What is the point of osc sync or detune in a synth with just one oscillator? What are you going to detune it against and why? What are you going to sync it to? It's a nothing synth, which is at least staying true to the original, I suppose.

If you would have taken the time to try it instead of barking like a crybaby , you would have known that detune and osc sync are added features .
.lazy bugger

[dellboy]

I got around to digging out my Alpha Juno 2 and setting it up so as to try it against this emulation.I do not have the time tonight,but based on listening to the first 16 patches in the hardware against the the same ones in the emulation, and using headphones, TAL-Pha yields an identical result to my ears. I am amazed how close they sound. I am sure that Starsky Carr will point out differences if he chooses to do a side by side comparison, but I can't hear any significant difference.

[Chris-S]

TAL already uploaded a comparison vid on YT. It's very close.

[jamcat]

Too bad it’s not the JX-8p : this one has the obvious advantage of cross modulation between oscillators and env-controlled volume of oscillator 2. Those 2 features allow for different adventures in sound design. Well maybe next one ? I very hope so since PG-8x seems to be abandoned.

Agreed. Let Patrick know!

[SebAV]

Given his ongoing love for Roland emulations, Patrick should talk to Martin of PG-8X infamy and see if the project could be bought / borrowed / transfered, whatever. PG-8X is dying a slow but absolute death right now. Why not hand it over to a guy who actually cares about keeping Roland emulations alive? I know, I know, it's not that easy......but a guy can dream.

Tal is so good he can do a jx8p alone. After playing with alpha, I think I’d prefer a jx10 (with some added features as Tal know what to add). Dual mode is a just another universe (as demonstrated in J8)

[Kokoala]

Demo

[jamcat]

Given his ongoing love for Roland emulations, Patrick should talk to Martin of PG-8X infamy and see if the project could be bought / borrowed / transfered, whatever. PG-8X is dying a slow but absolute death right now. Why not hand it over to a guy who actually cares about keeping Roland emulations alive? I know, I know, it's not that easy......but a guy can dream.

Tal is so good he can do a jx8p alone. Listen to alpha, I think I’d prefer a jx10 (with some added features as Tal know what to add). Dual mode is a just another universe (as demonstrated in J8)

I agree that Patrick does not need any help from Martin on a JX-8P. PG-8X is less accurate to a JX-8P than TAL-Pha is to an Alpha Juno. Plus the Alpha Juno and JX-8P came out at the same time and are closely related, so Patrick already has a strong foundation to start from. And finally, Martin has been making bad faith promises to transfer/open source/resume PG-8X for the past decade(!) that have gone nowhere. You would have to be beyond a fool to enter into talks with him over it at this point.

[Aloysius]

€75.66 intro' price. A bit too much for me.

[mholloway]

Given his ongoing love for Roland emulations, Patrick should talk to Martin of PG-8X infamy and see if the project could be bought / borrowed / transfered, whatever. PG-8X is dying a slow but absolute death right now. Why not hand it over to a guy who actually cares about keeping Roland emulations alive? I know, I know, it's not that easy......but a guy can dream.

Tal is so good he can do a jx8p alone. Listen to alpha, I think I’d prefer a jx10 (with some added features as Tal know what to add). Dual mode is a just another universe (as demonstrated in J8)

Yeah on second thought I agree with this take. Patrick is more than capable of doing JX-8P or, as you say, why not just go all out and do the doubled-up JX-10. That would be freaking awesome.

[mholloway]

I agree that Patrick does not need any help from Martin on a JX-8P. PG-8X is less accurate to a JX-8P than TAL-Pha is to an Alpha Juno. Plus the Alpha Juno and JX-8P came out at the same time and are closely related, so Patrick already has a strong foundation to start from. And finally, Martin has been making bad faith promises to transfer/open source/resume PG-8X for the past decade(!) that have gone nowhere. You would have to be beyond a fool to enter into talks with him over it at this point.

Overall I agree with you, and sincerely hope Patrick decides to tackle the JX-10. I'm not sure how you arrived at the conclusion that "PG-8X is less accurate to a JX-8P than TAL-Pha is to an Alpha Juno" though. PG-8X sounds _exactly_ like the JX-8P to me, patch by patch. I'm assuming your statement is just more of a 'gut reaction' than any real test, though (same as my conclusions; I haven't done any sort of test). I think both are excellent emulations.

[simmo75]

€75.66 intro' price. A bit too much for me.

You can buy the hardware for $400 here.

[Chris-S]

BUG : The envelope display (bottom right) is not updated when moving the sliders via Midi.