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Linux Users, What's You Distro Experience?
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- KVRist
- 185 posts since 4 Mar, 2010
Most music programs look in /usr/lib/vst3 first for a plugin. If the plugin isn't there, then the program will next look in your home folder's vst3 directory.
So, you can put the plugin in either location, and your programs wil find it.
But there are two things you should know:
First, if someone else has an account on your computer, and needs to use this plugin, then that someone won't be able to find the plugin if you put it in your own home folder. After all, that other user can't get access to anything in your home folder (unless you specifically change permissions to allow it). Both of you will be able to use the plugin only if you put it in /usr/lib/vst3.
Secondly, any program you run can modify that plugin unless you specifically change the permission to not allow yourself to modify (ie, write) that plugin. That's a security risk. Furthermore, lots of times when you zip and unzip downloaded plugins, the execute "flag" may get turned off. In this case, Linux will not allow your plugin to run. You will need to enable the execute flag. So, you need to be aware that just copying a file to your home's vst3 folder doesn't suffice.You need to change "file flags". Most desktops allow you to do this by clicking the right mouse button over the file's icon to present its pop-up menu. In that menu, you should see a "Properties" menu item. Selecting this should present a notebook dialog. On the Notebook's "Permissions" page, there should be settings for "Group", "Others", and your login name. You can set these to "read-only". There should also be a checkbox you can check for "execute".
So, you can put the plugin in either location, and your programs wil find it.
But there are two things you should know:
First, if someone else has an account on your computer, and needs to use this plugin, then that someone won't be able to find the plugin if you put it in your own home folder. After all, that other user can't get access to anything in your home folder (unless you specifically change permissions to allow it). Both of you will be able to use the plugin only if you put it in /usr/lib/vst3.
Secondly, any program you run can modify that plugin unless you specifically change the permission to not allow yourself to modify (ie, write) that plugin. That's a security risk. Furthermore, lots of times when you zip and unzip downloaded plugins, the execute "flag" may get turned off. In this case, Linux will not allow your plugin to run. You will need to enable the execute flag. So, you need to be aware that just copying a file to your home's vst3 folder doesn't suffice.You need to change "file flags". Most desktops allow you to do this by clicking the right mouse button over the file's icon to present its pop-up menu. In that menu, you should see a "Properties" menu item. Selecting this should present a notebook dialog. On the Notebook's "Permissions" page, there should be settings for "Group", "Others", and your login name. You can set these to "read-only". There should also be a checkbox you can check for "execute".
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Artie Fichelle Artie Fichelle https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=49629
- KVRist
- 338 posts since 28 Nov, 2004
Linux is by far the best OS. And I do not understand, that some relatively small Devs can bring their DAW and Plugins to Linux, as for Reaper, Bitwig and U-he for example, while big ones as Cubase and Ableton cannot.
Also wine is only second best solution, and it is difficult to handle all correctly. For example Reason installed, but the menues do not work.
My conclusion: I have a linux machine using what works more or less natively and a production machine (win 11).
Because if music making is the main goal, windows is still better most of the times.
Also wine is only second best solution, and it is difficult to handle all correctly. For example Reason installed, but the menues do not work.
My conclusion: I have a linux machine using what works more or less natively and a production machine (win 11).
Because if music making is the main goal, windows is still better most of the times.
artie fichelle sounds natural
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- KVRist
- 185 posts since 4 Mar, 2010
Obviously, you're including Android in your count of linux installations (and Android is based on linux).lunardigs wrote: Linux surpassed Windows and Mac devices, combined, since around 2011.
- KVRian
- 1261 posts since 6 Jun, 2016
Oh yeah, for sure. It's also IoT, servers, appliances, misc. devices like the Polyend, or Headrush stuff, Alexa devices, Ring cameras, TVs and so on ... Too much to list--and this is nothing to speak of virtualized instances of Linux, such as VPSs, Docker images, cloud infrastructure where Linux instances are spun up dynamically to meet demandj_e_g wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:43 pmObviously, you're including Android in your count of linux installations (and Android is based on linux).lunardigs wrote: Linux surpassed Windows and Mac devices, combined, since around 2011.
... It's actually hard to imagine the extent of Linux now days, since it's pretty much everywhere
This is why the music industry doesn't make much sense with their attitude toward it. They're like 2-3 decades behind at this point, and they need to snap out of it.
- KVRist
- 484 posts since 24 Feb, 2008 from Germany
It's more likely a BSD fridge anyways. Linux is in fewer devices than one might think. Samsung TV's runs for example at their own OS called Tizen.
One word to Android. That's Google, and this is what happens when Linux heads and ideology has no saying anymore. When you want to learn how to fail, then have a look at LineageOS. That's the one from the Linux community.
Who needs to catch up is the over 600 linux distributions, not the software manufracturers. You cannot tell a company to burn money at a non existent market with even a development and support overhead. The propaganda trick does not work since 25 years. There you can find your two decades behind by the way. Maybe time to change the strategy ...
One word to Android. That's Google, and this is what happens when Linux heads and ideology has no saying anymore. When you want to learn how to fail, then have a look at LineageOS. That's the one from the Linux community.
Who needs to catch up is the over 600 linux distributions, not the software manufracturers. You cannot tell a company to burn money at a non existent market with even a development and support overhead. The propaganda trick does not work since 25 years. There you can find your two decades behind by the way. Maybe time to change the strategy ...
“The biggest crime of a musician is to play notes instead of making music.”
Isaac Stern
Isaac Stern
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- KVRist
- 375 posts since 17 Nov, 2022
It looks like the sound production industry moves towards the always-on subscription-based as-a-service model coupled with AI (and of course plenty of data mining - plenty of money to make there). This is the future, not running DAW programs or plugins locally the old way with access to your OS and data.lunardigs wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:45 pm This is why the music industry doesn't make much sense with their attitude toward it. They're like 2-3 decades behind at this point, and they need to snap out of it.
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- KVRist
- 375 posts since 17 Nov, 2022
Because it's free. That's the only reason. Companies will choose Linux over anything else if they can because it lowers production costs. Using this as evidence for the superiority of Linux makes no sense.lunardigs wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:36 pm It surpassed Windows and Mac devices, combined, since around 2011.
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- KVRist
- 185 posts since 4 Mar, 2010
A better cost to benefit ratio is a perfectly valid measure of merit.WackyZoundz wrote: Because it's free. That's the only reason. Companies will choose Linux over anything else if they can because it lowers production costs. Using this as evidence for the superiority of Linux makes no sense.
I presume you're not a CFO.
- KVRian
- 560 posts since 3 Jan, 2021
Nah, that's ridiculous.WackyZoundz wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 5:01 pmBecause it's free. That's the only reason. Companies will choose Linux over anything else if they can because it lowers production costs. Using this as evidence for the superiority of Linux makes no sense.lunardigs wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:36 pm It surpassed Windows and Mac devices, combined, since around 2011.
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- KVRist
- 375 posts since 17 Nov, 2022
Not going to happen as long as the Linux community focuses on reinventing the wheel over and over again. It needs a large company to create a (likely commercial) Linux version dedicated to multimedia production, effectively forcing standards onto developers. I doubt this is going to happen though as long as Windows and MacOS work.
- KVRian
- 1261 posts since 6 Jun, 2016
+1 "You cannot tell a company to burn money at a non existent market ...", "That's Google, and this is what happens when Linux heads and ideology has no saying anymore"Tiles wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 10:34 am It's more likely a BSD fridge anyways. Linux is in fewer devices than one might think. Samsung TV's runs for example at their own OS called Tizen.
One word to Android. That's Google, and this is what happens when Linux heads and ideology has no saying anymore. When you want to learn how to fail, then have a look at LineageOS. That's the one from the Linux community.
Who needs to catch up is the over 600 linux distributions, not the software manufracturers. You cannot tell a company to burn money at a non existent market with even a development and support overhead. The propaganda trick does not work since 25 years. There you can find your two decades behind by the way. Maybe time to change the strategy ...
Lol, yup
This is how we ended up here.
I can't blame anyone though, because we're all chasing money. Which is a fake and broken system at this point, so, yeah ... Blame the 600 distros or something, why not