Tal J-8

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Try a preset with a reasonable amount of release in both envelopes and add some notes via Cubase’s Key editor while the sequence is running.

I went back and forth between 1.6.1 and 1.5.5 a couple of times with the same presets to be sure. There is something off with 1.6.1.

I'm sorry but there's not enough information in your post to confirm what you're hearing. What Poly mode are using and what voice mode are using? What are you hearing in this version versus what you expect to hear? How specifically are you triggering notes?

Like for example:

"1. I'm using Poly Mode II and the "N" voice mode set to 8 voices
2. I'm holding down D2 D3 F3 A3 then repeatedly adding the following notes one at a time: D4, D5, F5, A5, D6

Expected result: In the prior version, D2 would get cut.

Actual result: In the current version, D6 doesn't sound at all."

...that's a hypothetical example but just meant to illustrate how you could try to get your issue confirmed.

[zvenx]

Or since he seems to be using cubase, he can create a simple project that he can upload here and I would be happy to test.
rsp

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Or since he seems to be using cubase, he can create a simple project that he can upload here and I would be happy to test.
rsp

Sure...or that. But you'd still need to know what exactly to listen for. Expected results around voice logic aren't always super obvious.

[zvenx]

I assume stuck notes can't go unnoticed
rsp

[Weasel-Boy]

Try what's in this package.

Drag the MIDI file into Cubase 12 and L/R loop it. Set your Quantize to 1/16. Check the screenshot to see where I was double-clicking a note entry in the Key Editor.

This is happening using the VST3 in Rosetta mode on a MacbookPro M1 Max. And Zvenx is right....if it fails, it'll be pretty obvious once you stop the sequence.

TestForv161Hang.zip

Again, I went back and forth between v1.5.5 and 1.6.6 and cannot get 1.5.5 to fail. And please don't stop with one click if you can't get a result. Give it a number of tries in the sequence.

[zvenx]

just so you know my macbook is intel.. but you can send me yours 'to test'
I kid I kid
rsp

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I assume stuck notes can't go unnoticed
rsp

I missed one or two of Weasel Boy's posts in the discussion. Apologies for my confusion.

[zvenx]

I tried it what I am getting is a note that hangs forever that is it never seems to get a note off.
It is still going, let me try with another instrument...(cause I never ever draw in notes in Cubase so I have to make sure it is not a cubase bug first)

So yes I am getting a stuck note.

Strangely after adding those notes, switching patches, and back to that patch to get rid of the stuck note, and playing the now edited sequence I can't get it to do so, seems it only happens if you add notes whilst it is playing.... let me try to overdub and see... my current suspicion is I have note feedback on, that is when I paint in a note cubase immediately sounds it... I wonder if that is not giving the note off.


rsp

[zvenx]

So if I overdub notes from my midi controller there it doesn't happen, only when one paints it in... hmmm
rsp

[zvenx]

Weasel-Boy (surely I feel funny calling you this name ).
can you try it with acoustic feedback turned off?
When I turn it off, I can no longer get it to hang..

rsp

[Weasel-Boy]

So if I overdub notes from my midi controller there it doesn't happen, only when one paints it in... hmmm
rsp

When I first bumped into this, it actually first noticed the issue by entering notes via my external keyboard in overdub mode. I had less success via keyboard than note entry via the Key Editor...but since the Key Editor note entry method got it to fail fairly consistently, that's all I noted for an example.

As mentioned, I have been switching back and forth between version 1.5.5 and 1.6.1 and cannot get it to fail using either method when v1.5.5 is loaded. So I'm starting to think that it may not be strictly a Cubase issue because of the difference in behavior between the two versions of J8. But I'm not ruling out Cubase entirely, yet.

Additionally, I cannot get the .AU v1.6.1 to hang notes In Logic 10.7.4. Leads me to believe this may be an issue with the VST3 version only.

[Weasel-Boy]

And I just saw your latest post. I will try that. But it doesn't quite explain the diff I'm seeing between v1.5.5 and 1.6.1.

[Weasel-Boy]

Can you try it with acoustic feedback turned off?
When I turn it off, I can no longer get it to hang..

rsp

I can confirm. v1.6.1: no problem with Acoustic Feedback switched off. Still doesn't explain why v1.5.5 doesn't hang with Acoustic Feedback switched on.

Good find, BTW.

[Weasel-Boy]

One other empirical observation. So far, J8 v1.6.1 is the only synth, using a similar-sounding preset arrangement, that hangs entering notes via the Key editor with Acoustic Feedback turned on. I've just gone thru a half dozen different synths and can't get it to fail. There very well may be something specific to v1.6.1 that causing this in Cubase 12. But, later tonight I will try the same tests using Cubase 11 to see how it behaves.

[zvenx]

I emailed patrick about it, can't hurt for you to do the same.
I also pointed him to your repro.
rsp