The All In One Source Bitwig Information & Speculation Thread

[crashedthecar]

Thanks Thomas for the great info.
In live you can record audio without a click track and then tempo map that audio and have the project conform to that audios tempo map. Can you do this in bw?

In live you can't do this from a midi item, what about bw?

I don't think this has been touched on in this thread, apologies if it has.

[Chopper]

If anyone from bitwig still follows this thread, give Thomas a licence for life and even a PR job... The guy deserve it big time... Thanks Thomas!

[LawrenceF]

^^^ What he said. ^^^

Actually, any beta tester who really did the job, regularly tested and provided valuable concise feedback on a regular basis should probably get a free license, at least through the 1.0 cycle. They are, after all, providing a very valuable service.

Even if you break down the cost of a license against the time spent testing (for those actually regularly testing) it will probably amount to something like 25 cents an hour. Cheap labor.

P.S. I only say that because the expiring beta license thing is not anything I'm personally familiar with. The few betas Ive participated in didn't really do that.

[UncleAge]

If anyone from bitwig still follows this thread, give Thomas a licence for life and even a PR job... The guy deserve it big time... Thanks Thomas!

True, true...

[UncleAge]

P.S. I only say that because the expiring beta license thing is not anything I'm personally familiar with. The few betas Ive participated in didn't really do that.

Out of the ones I have done I had just one that was an expiring license. It's definitely not the norm AFAIK.

[crazyfiltertweaker]

There is no concept of bus vs. sends in BWS to my knowledge?

In Ableton you have Group/Folder channels, with which you can use one fader, one launch clip, one FX rack, one fader, one audio output a.s.o. for many MIDI and Audio channels. And finally you can collapse them that you only can see the folder channel. For mixing an essential function.

Available in Bitwig?

What you have is effect-tracks as they call it, same system as in Live, where it's called return track.

yes, for send effects. but it should be not the only possibility for bus routing.

Each track has send levels to every existing effect track, again the same as in Live. And those can be automated the same as everything else, so it can be either clip or arrangement based.

Is this possible with the Group/Folder Tracks, too? Do Bitwig have them?

"From the arranger to the arrangement" huh?

It is the second view for arranging the clips direct into the arrangement.


Furthermore: Live has the FX Rack where you can map effects within the range of a macro knob, is there also a FX rack with these global FX functions like Live has?(And not just a FX chain)

Isnt there any beta tester who knows any answers?

It is really important for me, because Im not beta tester and I dont know if I should buy Ableton or if I should wait.

I NEED the mentioned features, if they are not available, I will buy Ableton.

Thomas told me he told it already, but I have looked and find just other infos, not what I asked for. And it is indead important.

As prove, here are the quotes of thomas, where he told us something about bitwig from page 65 to where I started to post:

Woohooo.

I think this combination of arrangement and clips will be one of the major things for me. In Live I always found the arrangement "plugged on". Not so in BW.

What I also like: all devices in the chain get the midi data.

Hm - this is one such case where I'm reluctant to say much, because I simply don't know exactly how this is meant to work and if it is finished already. Each pad has a pan and volume that can be controlled with macros, but I am not sure about how to route the sends of individual pads.

More later when I find out ... well ... more.

Just tried: you can have really everything on a pad in Drum Machine: A drum synth, a VST, a Loop (automatically loaded into the nice sampler).


But to return to an earlier track: I checked some more of the internal effects and there are several split effects that could be used very nicely in layering: Multiband FX which splits a signal at a certain frequency and has two signal chains for high and low. Nice
The same principle for Mid-Side Splitting.
And the most crazy: an XY effect where you have four device chains (one in each corner) that you mix via an XY pad + a post FX chain...
So I would say if you are interested in customizing your layering in fine detail, you should have a lot of options!
This really feels like a nodal system without handling nodes.


When testing this I created several clips and didn't even think about it when I dragged a midi clip in one clip-launcher on the same track with the drum machine and an audio clip into another (it was an instrument track originally). And it just worked. Brilliant! No need for specific tracks anymore.
- Third party is handled exactly like internal in the layer node.

- For the layering: ATM there is a note tool that you can insert in the layers which allows you to set note and velocity ranges.
But this is one case where I don't know if this part is final. But if you remember that Bitwig is nodal in the background, IMO it makes sense to keep the RISC/KISS principle

- Didn't try nesting, but so far I haven't found anything that you can't nest.

- Follow actions is more powerful than Live: You have "Return to Arrangement" (so you can fire a clip while playing the arrangement and when it's finished it goes back to the Arrangement You also have "Return to last clip" which does the same for clips - pretty cool imo. Then there is "Round Robin", "Stop" and then basically all the modes Live has.

- Just checked out "Drum Machine" basically the same as Lives Drum Racks. Each pad can have it's own Device chain and you have a FX Button to include global effects. There are specific synths for Kick, Snare, HH etc. NICE
And of course you have Presets (nothing in BW without them).

[Cyoon]

chillax dude

[crashedthecar]

Orange is almost as bad as yellow, try navy blue

[mellotronaut]

chillax dude

orange is better than yellow at least, but why sooo big? he needs a new filter.

[crazyfiltertweaker]

How to relax without trying bitwig?
I have a decision to make, and these questions are the final ones, the final ones before the last boss(the decision for bitiwg or ableton), so please help me!

I really need the answers!

[crazyfiltertweaker]

Orange is almost as bad as yellow, try navy blue

there is no navy blue...

I stay at orange, because bitwig is orange!

[crashedthecar]

You have a point there:)

[LawrenceF]

I really need the answers!

I think what they're saying (by saying "chillax") is that your problem doesn't make it their emergency.

Chillax. It'll be out soon enough. You've waited this long, a couple more months 'aint gonna kill you or make or break your next album..

[crashedthecar]

It's just that a lot of us have been waiting for the arrival for over 2 years, first as a link from the vember audio website to the announcement Jan last year and you come in with your gusto last minute decision between ableton and bws. Lol we feel your pain

[crashedthecar]

It's just that a lot of us have been waiting for the arrival for over 2 years, first as a link from the vember audio website to the announcement Jan last year and you come in with your gusto last minute decision between ableton and bws. Lol we feel your pain