KVR Audio

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:11 pm

SLiC wrote:Maybe we should start another thread for those of us who are using it quite happily and wish to discuss programing/features? This thread is a mess!

It is a mess. Perhaps one better - can Vengeance get a subforum going here?

Robmobius · Post by **Robmobius** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:18 pm

lavizh wrote:Im a bit stunned with all the whining in this thread.

I was a bit surprised myself... I'm sure the devs are working hard to fix the bugs.

Avenger is probably the most feature laden synth I've seen so far. The sound is great and it's very easy to use(which I can't say for Falcon). There's some serious thought been put into the usability, flexibility and features. The possibilities are endless!

Personally, I've had nothing major except a few cpu spikes with parameter changes. That doesn't bother really bother me.

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:40 pm

Well, yeah, maybe the gui should be downscaled using pre-calculation, instead doing this 60 times a second live.... Although I wonder that even this causes so much load....

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:05 pm

Touch The Universe wrote:My speakers almost blew up for a second, very loud and crackles even after stopping audio engine. I had to restart daw and couldn't reproduce, thankfully.

Daw Orion
Windows 64 bit
Intel Core i5-6200U @2.3 GHz

Okay yeah, so this just happened again on an init preset changing filters. Not pretty.

Additional info:

Focusrite 2i4 audio interface
Via Fl studio Asio
Soundset on an external hardrive, western digital 4 TB

Anybody getting a similar error. Sound kinda blows up in a crackled tone, Very loud!!

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:18 pm

Just a tip: modulating modulation depth is done by assigning the modulator to the respective slot in the matrix, so if e.g. ModEnv1 controls formant shift, set the depth to 0 in the matrix, then assign e.g. velocity to that slot and set the modulation depth in there, then velocity control the amount of formant modulation via the envelope.

Hez · Post by **Hez** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:22 pm

For what it's worth, this is running fine on my PC (Win10, 16gb RAM, i7 4770k).

And I'm loving it - already created some sounds I've never got close to in any other synth. The FFT section in particular is probably worth the full price for me - something I've always wanted to do but never really had the opportunity to. Being able to reduce the fundamental by a couple of DB when layering mid basses is an awesome mixing tool, and modulating the hell out of a nice mountain/valley shape = instant Tipper bass squelch goodness.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:25 pm

If I want to import hundreds of wavetable in-wav-format I made with/for Serum/Falcon do I really have to drag them in the Resample area one by one, or is there a way to batch convert them to the Avenger format, which uses it's own format with .table/.tune-endings?
Doing in in the file menu is not possible, as Avenger detects everything with a .wav-ending as multi-samples not wavetables.

Klinke1 · Post by **Klinke1** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:30 pm

Can has NKS? (Native-Instr.)
To always have matching macro-names on the KK-keyboard-displays. + Maybe access to filter/amp-ENVs.. + Browsing from hardware.
Page 1:
3 Macroknobs, 2 Macrobuttons + Modw.CC1/Expression/Aftertouch = 8 Knobs (or Filter/Env-stuff if possible)

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I use W10 64Bit - i7 - SSD - Nvidia GTX750
-Cubase latest: No problems with performance. (CPU/GPU)
-Maschine2 latest: No probs with performance. But after ~1 hour it liked to crash the session.

kiezum · Post by **kiezum** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:58 pm

On a positive note, Avenger didn't crash yet on my system (Cubase 8.5 on Windows 10). I recognize a lot of the nice Phalanx features, even the waveshapes. Modulation system and resampling are simply brilliant. It encourages to experiment and come up with interesting sounds. Even the depth of modulation can be modulated! Avenger has decent filters and samples.

Wishlist
a preset system for AMP and Filter (like in Phalanx)
better sample import (if they would do that, no one would buy Phalanx)
quicker preset loading
CPU load could be much lower (Phalanx also needs to be optimized)

It's easy to create the Vengeance sound with it (the AA reverb and delay are turned on when initialized). No creamy analog sounds here.

As a Phalanx user I hope that they will not forget to update Phalanx (msvs:
"yes, we indeed plan to give Phalanx an (free) update with the new DrumSequencer, new FX types etc, once Avenger is released"). But they lowered the price of Phalanx and that isn't a very good sign.

Conclusion: nice synth that needs some updates. I'll first wait for an free update to Phalanx before I buy another product from Vengeance Sound.

jasco · Post by **jasco** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:00 pm

How long does the xmas discount run for?

lavizh · Post by **lavizh** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:15 pm

jasco wrote:How long does the xmas discount run for?

Throughout December.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:32 pm

one question, atm demoin more finally, i dunno why the sound of a simple saw detuned is not so bright and tight sounding like in rapid?
sounds very tame :/

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:36 pm

Caine123 wrote:one question, atm demoin more finally, i dunno why the sound of a simple saw detuned is not so bright and tight sounding like in rapid?
sounds very tame :/

Turn off the LP filter (engaged via velocity by default), switch of delay/reverb.

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:36 pm

Caine123 wrote:one question, atm demoin more finally, i dunno why the sound of a simple saw detuned is not so bright and tight sounding like in rapid?
sounds very tame :/

Try the NEXLP24 filter, with drive off, but set to the drive+oversample variant

Soundplex · Post by **Soundplex** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:46 pm

Caine123 wrote:one question, atm demoin more finally, i dunno why the sound of a simple saw detuned is not so bright and tight sounding like in rapid?
sounds very tame :/

Because Rapid just has a default big highend boost within its filter

Deactivate it in Rapid for a fair comparison or add a eq to the Avenger saw. The amount should easy be visible when using an analyzer after both plugins.

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