KVR Audio

_starcraft_ · Post by **_starcraft_** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:22 pm

nice one branis. thats allready lookin decent for a temp gui. the size and readability i would say is spot on to be used on different systems. it fits nice on 800x600 9" although only with autohide of taskbar(i can live with that)- the perfect GUI size i guess would be somthing like 800x500.(u have to consider size of taskbar and of vst wrapper at the top)
there seem to be a few controls missing...the ocillator phase retigger control?

anyway good job. thanks.

ps : u know about knboman right? (its a tool for making knobs -in dsp section)

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:11 pm

it won't use bitmap knobs it'll use the sc_knob control we've designed long ago, you actually suggested the design.

"ocillator phase retrigger"

you mean the sync dropbox? it can be set to {off, A->B, B->A, reset}.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:16 pm

Branis wrote:The progress on the GUI has been good so far

i disagree, those knobs are bloody awfull..no offence, but they are very dated...look like some kinda SE rubbish i would make, and thats def not a good look

Branis · Post by **Branis** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:41 pm

Kriminal wrote:
Branis wrote:The progress on the GUI has been good so far
i disagree, those knobs are bloody awfull..no offence, but they are very dated...look like some kinda SE rubbish i would make, and thats def not a good look

Knobs, buttons and some other things are still not done

The idea is to make the GUIlook like the screenshot of a mockup I posted earlier.

scoobz · Post by **scoobz** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:47 pm

Bit harsh there Krim, unnecessarily so. He said he wasn't happy with the knobs.

You've got alot done branis, well done.

I prefer the size of the fonts in your original and the greys are a bit red

I dunno if anyone remembers but I tried to '3d-ize' the knobs a bit (top left panel here...)

If you could incorporate something like that I think it would benefit the overall look.

Good luck and keep on keeping on!

Z3R0T0N1N · Post by **Z3R0T0N1N** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:50 pm

Kriminal wrote:
Branis wrote:The progress on the GUI has been good so far
i disagree, those knobs are bloody awfull..no offence, but they are very dated...look like some kinda SE rubbish i would make, and thats def not a good look

wow, tell us how you really feel, Krim; you gotta stop keeping it all bottled up!

seriously though, he did say the knobs needed replacing.

Branis, maybe I'll have a look at it. The knob definition code goes where? any help on that, or is it all on Acidose. The gods know, he doesn't have much to do, the lazy bastard.

'dose: can you point me in the right direction to find out about graphics drawing in the gui code?

maybe I will have to read through a 100 or so pages here, 'till I find where you no doubt already told us like, five times or something. sorry

Branis · Post by **Branis** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:51 pm

_starcraft_ wrote: there seem to be a few controls missing...the ocillator phase retigger control?

sorry, I can't find this control. Where is is in the default GUI?

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:51 pm

scoobz wrote:Bit harsh there Krim, unnecessarily so. He said he wasn't happy with the knobs.

not harsh, honest...

Branis · Post by **Branis** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:02 pm

scoobz, when the GUI is done, it's going to be pretty easy to change colors. I'll probably make several versions myself, and the GUI code will be available to all so anyone can make their on variations. Concerning the 3d stuff - it's out of my league. This GUI is done completely in notepad, no graphics software involved. I'm not a coder, I know how to input coordinates, change some colors, simple stuff like that, but nothing more I'm afraid.

Z3R0T0N1N, I'll leave it to aciddose to answer your questions since I can only guess

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:06 pm

library/adgui/

controls and the draw functions for controls are all defined there. nobody should be able to make a control from scratch at this point other than myself, the systems are rather complex. you could however quite easily start playing by creating your own mini-gui based off "gen", and placing various controls you've created there.

you could obviously change the size of the gui to 1000x700 or whatever, i mean "mini" as in code complexity not in terms of dimensions.

http://xhip.cjb.net/xhip/xgdb

scoobz · Post by **scoobz** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:22 pm

hey B,

I'm sure what you've already done is out of my league, so credit for working it all out. You could send me the panels in whatever format and I'll 3d em and send em back in the same format (as long as it's not an AD proprietary format!)

If it was a case of arranging bmps or jpgs I'd give it a go but from what ADs written it already sounds like a nightmare to do!

_starcraft_ · Post by **_starcraft_** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:08 am

aciddose wrote:it won't use bitmap knobs it'll use the sc_knob control we've designed long ago, you actually suggested the design.

"ocillator phase retrigger"

you mean the sync dropbox? it can be set to {off, A->B, B->A, reset}.

hmmm no i mean oscillator phase retrig so that the attack click is constant.
i thought it had been put in....

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:10 am

yes, sync set to "gate".

_starcraft_ · Post by **_starcraft_** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:33 am

@branis if u could remove the gradient from the AD knobs and leave just the emboss and make the tick white and slightly longer....i think it will be nicely readable and usable even in that temporary format.

@scoobs GTFO with your photoshop filterz and cheese .

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:47 am

starcraft, there is no "temporary format". the dropboxes don't work right and there are several major problems. i've already said it will take a couple weeks to get all the work done if i were doing it, branis would need to learn a LOT of stuff and it might take him a year to fix all bugs and make everything work correctly.

he has already done everything he can do, you should take a look at the code and figure out how to do things you ask for before you suggest that someone should do them. if you can figure out how to do them, do them yourself!

http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/public/two-twolayers.mp3 (people probably have never realized most of the patches in the default bank are for two, three, or even four layer multitimbral configurations.)

using velocity and with some minor tweaking of the rhodes, rhodes.b and dingledangle patches you can get a very good rhodes sound. i've compared side-by-side with a stage mk.1 and they are indistinguishable if you tweak the patches correctly.

http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/public/notwork ... is.xhipgui

XHip--Please finish your synth!!