this is on my PC too. and additonal it happen when press in the right popup menu for generators regenerate, that when click on the same generator in browser(to hear the new regenerate), that it is not play again with the new phrase. often it is usefull to hear a phrase in a loop, so maybe add a loop play is usefull too. browsers in other DAW have this loop play and a play pointerMeinolf wrote:Hi Attila,
Shortcut Info: lmc: left mouse click, rmc: right mouse click
Problems
Phrases Browser and phrase preview:
- Preview playback is activated.
- lmc on phrase plays it
- rmc on phrase shows it in the preview window
- After this rmc, the lmc does not play the phrase
- Get it working:
- --1. lmc on a different phrase, played.
- --2. lmc on the phrase shown in preview window, played now
v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)
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- KVRian
- 1405 posts since 11 Nov, 2013
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6014 posts since 9 Jan, 2010
Hi Meinolf,
Wow, so many good suggestions!
Especially coloring the piano roll according to note range and showing articulation keyswitches would be great.
One improvement that was added today is for the timeline selection. Shift-click will extend an existing selection. This allows selection in 2 clicks: you select some beats at the beginning in the traditional way, then scroll to the end and press shift-click. I made it possible to click on the same selected phrase in the browser to have preview. If the right click menu is open you still need another click to close it.
Do you have the images in bigger size? When using postimage.org, use "hotlink for forums" instead of the thumbnail. If you didn't keep the images, no problem, the descriptions are clear.
Thanks!
Attila
Wow, so many good suggestions!
One improvement that was added today is for the timeline selection. Shift-click will extend an existing selection. This allows selection in 2 clicks: you select some beats at the beginning in the traditional way, then scroll to the end and press shift-click. I made it possible to click on the same selected phrase in the browser to have preview. If the right click menu is open you still need another click to close it.
Do you have the images in bigger size? When using postimage.org, use "hotlink for forums" instead of the thumbnail. If you didn't keep the images, no problem, the descriptions are clear.
Thanks!
Attila
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musicdevelopments musicdevelopments https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=223336
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6014 posts since 9 Jan, 2010
I think Meinolf means this small preview window. In the next version it will be closed automatically when you click on another phrase in the browser.magicmusic wrote:this is on my PC too. and additonal it happen when press in the right popup menu for generators regenerate, that when click on the same generator in browser(to hear the new regenerate), that it is not play again with the new phrase. often it is usefull to hear a phrase in a loop, so maybe add a loop play is usefull too. browsers in other DAW have this loop play and a play pointer

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- KVRAF
- 2154 posts since 15 May, 2017
Hey Attila! You forgot the "none" selection for ostinato scale steps..! (possible intervals)???
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- KVRian
- 1405 posts since 11 Nov, 2013
i thought he mean when he want hear the same phrase again in browser preview and click again on same phrase do not work. or maybe can add in the small preview window a play button to avoid thismusicdevelopments wrote:I think Meinolf means this small preview window. In the next version it will be closed automatically when you click on another phrase in the browser.magicmusic wrote:this is on my PC too. and additonal it happen when press in the right popup menu for generators regenerate, that when click on the same generator in browser(to hear the new regenerate), that it is not play again with the new phrase. often it is usefull to hear a phrase in a loop, so maybe add a loop play is usefull too. browsers in other DAW have this loop play and a play pointer
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- KVRAF
- 1782 posts since 10 Mar, 2004
thinking out loud:
with the preview window:
isn't be nicer once you open the small preview window
- keep always open the preview window
- just left click to the others that you want to preview
- last clicked will stop the previous one and start to play (as like one click preview)
- right click to phrase stop and close preview window..?
with the preview window:
isn't be nicer once you open the small preview window
- keep always open the preview window
- just left click to the others that you want to preview
- last clicked will stop the previous one and start to play (as like one click preview)
- right click to phrase stop and close preview window..?
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- KVRian
- 1405 posts since 11 Nov, 2013
this solution i think good too
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- KVRAF
- 1782 posts since 10 Mar, 2004
i was collecting long rhythms from classical midi files,
i noticed Generator rhythm length goes 63 Beats Repeating max in the 4*4 Time signature
and in the 3*4 goes max 47 Beats Repeating..
Arpeggio Generators 48 Beats long in this case,
while dragging midi files to the Rhythm section everything is normal .. but after save and load rhythms,
seems loads only half of it.. saved rhythms 48 beats as you can see in the video but when loading i have to select 24 Beats Repeating manually..
is this is normal? what am i missing?
i hope video will make sense
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IGxbz ... avYn2Wynk0
i noticed Generator rhythm length goes 63 Beats Repeating max in the 4*4 Time signature
and in the 3*4 goes max 47 Beats Repeating..
Arpeggio Generators 48 Beats long in this case,
while dragging midi files to the Rhythm section everything is normal .. but after save and load rhythms,
seems loads only half of it.. saved rhythms 48 beats as you can see in the video but when loading i have to select 24 Beats Repeating manually..
is this is normal? what am i missing?
i hope video will make sense
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IGxbz ... avYn2Wynk0
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musicdevelopments musicdevelopments https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=223336
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6014 posts since 9 Jan, 2010
The good news is that you'll be able to click on the same phrase to hear the preview in v3.4, so this is not a problem anymore.magicmusic wrote:i thought he mean when he want hear the same phrase again in browser preview and click again on same phrase do not work. or maybe can add in the small preview window a play button to avoid this
Thanks,
Attila
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- KVRian
- 1405 posts since 11 Nov, 2013
Hi Attila
thanks, this is great, speedup alot when want hear a recreate phrase or same phrase again
thanks, this is great, speedup alot when want hear a recreate phrase or same phrase again
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- KVRAF
- 1782 posts since 10 Mar, 2004
new one
drum phrase (Absolute) sounds different preview from browser vs playing in the track..
i think its because of changed velocities
if i bypass the Expression variation in the track, phrase sound exactly as in preview
video demonstration:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1s5oMU ... 5Ee4rGsv72
drum phrase (Absolute) sounds different preview from browser vs playing in the track..
i think its because of changed velocities
if i bypass the Expression variation in the track, phrase sound exactly as in preview
video demonstration:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1s5oMU ... 5Ee4rGsv72
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- KVRAF
- 2154 posts since 15 May, 2017
Enjoying 3.4! However, lol... not related to anything new, but, I have an issue with splitting a bar on the timeline. It seems like the double click isn't being interpreted all the time. I always get the chord suggestions and repeated tries eventually gets the bar to split. Is there another way of splitting the bar into a new chord at the cursor?
EDIT: never mind.. just read the release notes.. haha very cool..
EDIT: never mind.. just read the release notes.. haha very cool..
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musicdevelopments musicdevelopments https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=223336
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6014 posts since 9 Jan, 2010
Yes, that annoyed me too, that is why Alt-clicking on the chords is possible in v3.4. It won't open the the chord suggestions.
Thanks,
Attila
Thanks,
Attila
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- KVRAF
- 1753 posts since 30 Nov, 2013
Hello Attila!
Just notes on version 3.4 ...
-I always surprised that generators are in a phrase browser, without the possibility of sorting and the possibility to transfer the generators to the top of the list ..
- Why can not I convert phrases to other generators? (For example, Ostinato)
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Perhaps this is due to computer graphics and monitor resolution? Here is an example:

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-- Chord Selector / Chord Progression / Drag ...
It would be nice to have the opposite effect: to drag the progression from the master track to the Accord Selector and regenerate it again. Do not generate a new progression, but regenerate the progression of the master track, of course with the possibility not to lose the original chords of the master track.
Thank you very much for your work.
Let me remind you that something
that I'm writing is interesting, but certainly not as important as the ability to program Chord rules, the ability to drag midi files and phrases with controllers and the ability to quantize not only notes, but all events, including controllers.
Thank you for attention .
Just notes on version 3.4 ...
-I always surprised that generators are in a phrase browser, without the possibility of sorting and the possibility to transfer the generators to the top of the list ..
- Why can not I convert phrases to other generators? (For example, Ostinato)
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It does not always work and you need the ability to place it / left always / or / right always /, but it's better to automatically / do not obscure the chord / .New setting: "Quick Suggestions Placement". You can open the chord suggestion on the right side of the chord box
Perhaps this is due to computer graphics and monitor resolution? Here is an example:

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This is very good, but this applies to midi files that are already on the tracks of the program ... It would be very good if there was a possibility to drag the midi file into the program like a rhythm ... Straight to the rhythm browser or directly to the phrase, as groove-quantization ..MIDI files can be dropped to rhythm drop targets
-- Chord Selector / Chord Progression / Drag ...
It would be nice to have the opposite effect: to drag the progression from the master track to the Accord Selector and regenerate it again. Do not generate a new progression, but regenerate the progression of the master track, of course with the possibility not to lose the original chords of the master track.
Thank you very much for your work.
Let me remind you that something
that I'm writing is interesting, but certainly not as important as the ability to program Chord rules, the ability to drag midi files and phrases with controllers and the ability to quantize not only notes, but all events, including controllers.
Thank you for attention .
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- KVRAF
- 1782 posts since 10 Mar, 2004
eham!..
i think Voicing deserves own tab instead of drop down list,
what do you think?

EDIT:
i loved this one more

i think Voicing deserves own tab instead of drop down list,
what do you think?

EDIT:
i loved this one more

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