7Aliens Catanya - Music Phrase Arpeggiator
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- KVRAF
- 6081 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
iskandar,
Are you also using Harmony Improvisator with this piece?
BTW it is very nice.
Are you also using Harmony Improvisator with this piece?
BTW it is very nice.
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- KVRAF
- 3335 posts since 18 May, 2003 from Sweden
Anybody running Catanya demo with Tracktion 3.0.4.8 on XP SP2?
That's what I use on my Windows partition (Bootcamp, MacBook Pro) and Tracktion is working quite well, with Jamstix and diverse VSTI:s.
But as soon as I try to instantiate Catanya, Tracktion poof crashes and leaves without any further comments.
Any ideas?
Best,
Joachim
That's what I use on my Windows partition (Bootcamp, MacBook Pro) and Tracktion is working quite well, with Jamstix and diverse VSTI:s.
But as soon as I try to instantiate Catanya, Tracktion poof crashes and leaves without any further comments.
Any ideas?
Best,
Joachim
If it were easy, anybody could do it!
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- KVRist
- 352 posts since 26 Jun, 2006
This looks really cool.
Someone took the Energy XT 1.4 "Arp" component concept, threw some presets in and made it ergonomic.
Bravo 7Aliens.
I find it funny though that many Energy XT 1.4 users are "wow"-ing at this, when they had it all (and more) already in XT 1.4.

Someone took the Energy XT 1.4 "Arp" component concept, threw some presets in and made it ergonomic.
Bravo 7Aliens.
I find it funny though that many Energy XT 1.4 users are "wow"-ing at this, when they had it all (and more) already in XT 1.4.
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- KVRer
- 5 posts since 21 Sep, 2004
man !
Im so happy to stumble on this thread. I bought catanya
today. I like to use it in protools8. The VST-Rtas
wrapping went fine I think. (The GUI behaves a bit spooky though)
But..( this seems silly and the answer is probably simple)
What routing should I make ? I can send midi to Catanya..and then what?
How can one send catanyas output to a softsynth? There is no manual.
thank you in advance
Im so happy to stumble on this thread. I bought catanya
today. I like to use it in protools8. The VST-Rtas
wrapping went fine I think. (The GUI behaves a bit spooky though)
But..( this seems silly and the answer is probably simple)
What routing should I make ? I can send midi to Catanya..and then what?
How can one send catanyas output to a softsynth? There is no manual.
thank you in advance
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- KVRian
- 613 posts since 17 Dec, 2008 from Liverpool
Basically you set up chords etc in your DAW routed through your designated VSTi's on a midi track and Catanya 'arpeggiates' them into useable phrases. Have the output of Catanya going into the input of your softsynth. Highly simplified answer i know...but in a nutshell, thats about the bones of it.
Look at the video on the 7Aliens site as well.
Look at the video on the 7Aliens site as well.
'Fastest Filter in the West'
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- KVRer
- 5 posts since 21 Sep, 2004
Thanks for the quick reply Red !
The thing is...in ProTools you have to bring in Catanya
as an insert on a audio-track. ( there is no midi-insert)
You can send midi from a midi track to that insert
(softsynth or Kontakt etc.) And thats it.
There is no midi-out. Only audio-out.
I was hoping there is some kind of "aux-send-bus-trick" otherwise I
threw away my 45 euro.
thanks again.
The thing is...in ProTools you have to bring in Catanya
as an insert on a audio-track. ( there is no midi-insert)
You can send midi from a midi track to that insert
(softsynth or Kontakt etc.) And thats it.
There is no midi-out. Only audio-out.
I was hoping there is some kind of "aux-send-bus-trick" otherwise I
threw away my 45 euro.
thanks again.
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- KVRer
- 5 posts since 21 Sep, 2004
Just got a very good answer on another forum :
(maybe someone with the same problem can use this)
Just install Reaper and ProTools will see it as Rewire insert
In Reaper Catanya works beautifully !
You can't use Rtas-instruments but most softsynths/samplers
have a vst version included. (I even can slave Reason to Reaper)
Reaper is very friendly on CPU.
thank you

(maybe someone with the same problem can use this)
Just install Reaper and ProTools will see it as Rewire insert
In Reaper Catanya works beautifully !
You can't use Rtas-instruments but most softsynths/samplers
have a vst version included. (I even can slave Reason to Reaper)
Reaper is very friendly on CPU.
thank you
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 29 posts since 30 Mar, 2009
It's too early to speak about the Mac version and its licensing but we don't plan to arrange any extra strict conditions. We expect that it will be sufficient to have 1 license per person when using at the desktop and laptop respectively a dual boot Mac/PC.YUGA wrote:Will I also get the mac version if I buy the Windows version, or will I need to buy an additional license for the mac version?7Aliens wrote:MAC version is just planned right now. It won't be released sooner than in the version 2.0.Echoes in the Attic wrote:Again, will it ever go mac?
If I don't have to pay for two licenses, I may want to used it on the bootcamp XP for composition, and arrange and mix on OSX till the mac version comes out.
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- KVRian
- 1302 posts since 9 Oct, 2003 from California
Please let me know how you get on with this as I am interested in the product. I had trouble with the D/L demo and the RTAS wrapper too. Sure would be nice if was able to be wrapped and installed on an instrument track so you could use things like the DB-33, Xpand2 and Structure.spiv wrote:Just got a very good answer on another forum :
(maybe someone with the same problem can use this)
Just install Reaper and ProTools will see it as Rewire insert
In Reaper Catanya works beautifully !
You can't use Rtas-instruments but most softsynths/samplers
have a vst version included. (I even can slave Reason to Reaper)
Reaper is very friendly on CPU.
thank you
Dan
Those that can, do. Those that can't, argue about it on k-v-r
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- KVRist
- 85 posts since 10 Mar, 2009
Nice plug-in, but too simple. It is good to make a bass lane quickly and effortless.
What I do not like
1. 1/16 grid sometimes is not enough, to add nuances we need 1/32 grid.
2. Guitar strum is not possible at the moment.
3. There is not independently twickable Cutoff or Resonance or CC 11 (Expression - very good for gate effect), just velocity dependent. Two more twickable MIDI CC, please.
I uploaded an example what can you do with MIDI CC 11 expression. I used it on pad.
http://depositfiles.com/files/39esgfdy8
I think Catanya can do thing like this.
4. Retriggering - i.e. when pattern starts. In Catanya it is only one option - pattern starts when new chord comes.
Sometimes it is useful if pattern longer than chords that pattern goes independently to it's end and disregards new chord.
What I do not like
1. 1/16 grid sometimes is not enough, to add nuances we need 1/32 grid.
2. Guitar strum is not possible at the moment.
3. There is not independently twickable Cutoff or Resonance or CC 11 (Expression - very good for gate effect), just velocity dependent. Two more twickable MIDI CC, please.
I uploaded an example what can you do with MIDI CC 11 expression. I used it on pad.
http://depositfiles.com/files/39esgfdy8
I think Catanya can do thing like this.
4. Retriggering - i.e. when pattern starts. In Catanya it is only one option - pattern starts when new chord comes.
Sometimes it is useful if pattern longer than chords that pattern goes independently to it's end and disregards new chord.
- KVRAF
- 2394 posts since 29 Jun, 2005 from La La Land
Hi 7Aliens, is there any way to make the sequencer not restart from the beginning when you play a new note from your keyboard? Other than that Catanya is exactly the step arpeggiator I'm looking for.
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- KVRAF
- 2097 posts since 19 Aug, 2005 from Where Sheep May Safely Graze & They're Using A Chicken 2 Measure It
I'm waiting to hear how -- if at all -- you integrate this with Eloquence...Orbit-50 wrote:Hi 7Aliens, is there any way to make the sequencer not restart from the beginning when you play a new note from your keyboard? Other than that Catanya is exactly the step arpeggiator I'm looking for.
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- KVRAF
- 2394 posts since 29 Jun, 2005 from La La Land
Oh baby! I did it already. It's perfect. That's why I came on here and asked this question. Catanya is the perfect compliment to Eloquence. The only thing Catanya needs is the 2 different sequencer trigger modes. Key and Legato. As it stands now, it only does key trigger.funkychickendance wrote:I'm waiting to hear how -- if at all -- you integrate this with Eloquence...
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