I'm not going to make 20grand a year at this madnessPerson99 wrote:After trying REAPER, I still don't "get" the REAPER craze, but I've accepted that I'll never "get" it.
But, given its popularity in this poll, I'll like to see a related poll with honest results:
How much did you pay for REAPER:
( ) Commercial ($225)
(*) Non Commercial ($60)
( ) $0
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
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- KVRian
- 538 posts since 23 Jan, 2008 from Hamburg, Germany
Well, the prices are the ones that people have to pay in the country where Cubase is produced. REAPER is only sold in USD so I've just converted the prices to make them easier to compare.4lb Kitty wrote:Except that all versions of Reaper are the same, and all legal, and Cubase doesn't cost that much, in USD, anyway.
The $0 version of REAPER is only legal for 30 days. After this period you'll have to pay for a license or remove the software from your system. The software will not stop working after the demo has expired but using the software will be as illegal as using the windy $0 Cubase versions.
- KVRAF
- 7903 posts since 24 May, 2009 from Nationalism isn't my thing...
I stand corrected. 
I had heard that it was an unlimited trial, but that was wrong. I apologize.
I'm sorry, I didn't see you were from Germany. It shouldn't be that Cubase and other software costs so much overseas. That just doesn't make sense to me.
Why should the same thing sold where it's made be more than here in the US? 
I had heard that it was an unlimited trial, but that was wrong. I apologize.
I'm sorry, I didn't see you were from Germany. It shouldn't be that Cubase and other software costs so much overseas. That just doesn't make sense to me.
Blue Phase Music
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- KVRer
- 9 posts since 24 Jan, 2011
My point was that REAPER completely relies on the honor system and I'm wondering how many of its users are "honorable". You can have a fully functional REAPER forever without paying a cent. So, I would just really be curious to know which percentage of its users are using it past 30 days for free.
Related to that, I would also like to know how this percentage stacks up against other DAWs given the for other DAWs, you have to go out and download a cracked version to use it for free forever whereas Cockos has made it quite easy to do this.
I'm mostly just curious to know if their model (Cockos that is) has any different behaviour associated with it.
Related to that, I would also like to know how this percentage stacks up against other DAWs given the for other DAWs, you have to go out and download a cracked version to use it for free forever whereas Cockos has made it quite easy to do this.
I'm mostly just curious to know if their model (Cockos that is) has any different behaviour associated with it.
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- KVRAF
- 1869 posts since 15 Sep, 2003 from Land of Crazies, USA
I just sold Pro Tools to switch to Reaper. I was tired of using a bloated inefficient 32 bit track limited closed off dinosaur.
Getting rid of the iLok was a bonus, but not the sole factor in my decision.
Also, compare the Reaper forums to the Digidesign DUC and how the developers interact with the customers. Bugs are taken care of in a speedy manner, and bugfixes do not take hours to download. (Each PT 9 update has been over 1GB.)
Getting rid of the iLok was a bonus, but not the sole factor in my decision.
Also, compare the Reaper forums to the Digidesign DUC and how the developers interact with the customers. Bugs are taken care of in a speedy manner, and bugfixes do not take hours to download. (Each PT 9 update has been over 1GB.)
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- KVRian
- 538 posts since 18 Feb, 2005
FL Studio for me,has been since the early Fruity Loops days and it just gets better with each new update. Have wanted to try Reaper, but don't think I'd get much "test drive experience" out of the limited demo version. I agree with the post above, Sonar just got too cumbersome and crashy for me to bother with anymore.
Musical Style: Psychotic Northwoods Basement Trash
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- KVRAF
- 1869 posts since 15 Sep, 2003 from Land of Crazies, USA
lockheart wrote:They'll miss you.
What's more painful for them is when I tell clients to check out Reaper before committing to Pro Tools.
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- KVRAF
- 1869 posts since 15 Sep, 2003 from Land of Crazies, USA
Limited demo version? I hope that was a joke.jdt wrote: Have wanted to try Reaper, but don't think I'd get much "test drive experience" out of the limited demo version.
http://www.cockos.com/reaper/download.php
The evaluation version of REAPER is complete and uncrippled. There are no artificial interruptions or restrictions, and you can save and load projects normally. We believe in giving you a fair chance to make sure that REAPER works correctly with your hardware and suits your workflow.
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- KVRian
- 897 posts since 4 Jul, 2007
Dominus wrote:lockheart wrote:They'll miss you.
What's more painful for them is when I tell clients to check out Reaper before committing to Pro Tools.
There are cultists who have gone on the AVID forum and asked "How many of you have left Pro Tools for Reaper" and exactly the same question but on the Cubase forum. For a certain demographic segment, it is the thing to do.
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- KVRist
- 114 posts since 18 Oct, 2008
Haha, Reaper definitely uses a reliable guilt-ware protection system, which appears to work...it did for me...I didn't even get anywhere near the 30 day limit before feeling guilty!Person99 wrote:My point was that REAPER completely relies on the honor system and I'm wondering how many of its users are "honorable". You can have a fully functional REAPER forever without paying a cent. So, I would just really be curious to know which percentage of its users are using it past 30 days for free.
Related to that, I would also like to know how this percentage stacks up against other DAWs given the for other DAWs, you have to go out and download a cracked version to use it for free forever whereas Cockos has made it quite easy to do this.
I'm mostly just curious to know if their model (Cockos that is) has any different behaviour associated with it.
Given the quantity of updates, the stability and quality of the code, 32 + 64 bit, 2 major versions covered for $50-$60, would leave anyone but the most ardent pirate full of guilt. I think that's their business model, and it's working!
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
For me it took "fate" for reaper to come in and bless my DAW world. I'd tried it a few times before and was just lost. I never got it, couldn't understand it and at the risk of being redundant was just baffled with it.
The, they pulled the sneaky me. I used it just to check if x64 was working hardware wise (new computer) and WHAMMMMMO! They sucked me in......for whatever reason it just totally clicked. License bought
The, they pulled the sneaky me. I used it just to check if x64 was working hardware wise (new computer) and WHAMMMMMO! They sucked me in......for whatever reason it just totally clicked. License bought
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- KVRian
- 911 posts since 1 Dec, 2003 from tejas
I had looked at it twice before and it seemed un-finishedhibidy wrote:For me it took "fate" for reaper to come in and bless my DAW world. I'd tried it a few times before and was just lost. I never got it, couldn't understand it and at the risk of being redundant was just baffled with it.
The, they pulled the sneaky me. I used it just to check if x64 was working hardware wise (new computer) and WHAMMMMMO! They sucked me in......for whatever reason it just totally clicked. License bought
After looking at 3.74 it seemed "close enough"
Bought a license
REAPER 4.02 is out and I feel pretty darn good about not spending another cent on Cubase ...
peace y'all
pj
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- KVRAF
- 6178 posts since 4 Oct, 2007 from Escaped At Last
hibidy wrote:I Am Just x64...For Whatever Reason I Just Totally Flip When Something Ain't 64-Bit
If his new machine is good then i will probably get him to build me one also of similar spec as i already have Windows 7 but i ain't put it on my DAW machine as it will not offer it any benefits as it is
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