KVR Audio

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:21 pm

chacka wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:
chacka wrote: Right. I want the good shit. But not in the form or a current eating like there's no tomorrow, monophonic, no patch saving wall of cupboard modular.
All inside one laptop. With 1k times the CPU power than I have right now.
Patience young padawan , we'll get there soon enough.
Haha! Nice to be called young. How old are you?

Old enough to have seen Moores Law in action long enough to believe in it. And young enough to see a laptop a thousand times more powerful than what we have today,hopefully. According to Moore that's 10 years away.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:22 pm

Urs wrote:
Ingonator wrote: there is still an audible difference, mostly in the low frequencies.
Contact me if you ever get to Berlin. The difference in bass is non-existant between Diva and our reference hardware. If anything then Diva has more heights (thus, at same level she'll of course have less bass, unless you eq 12kHz+ out of Diva)

Hi Urs,

maybe i'm already too much used to the Slim Phatty to remember the sound if the Mini which i got back in 2004/2005. Anyway most of the fatness i like in the Slim Phatty comes when using the adjustable filter overload (like i already mentioned at my first post in this thread). I have also mentioned several times that Diva does not replicate a Slim Phatty which is why a 1:1 comparison is difficult.
In the U-He forum i had also mentioned that using an external Drive FX like e.g. Schwa Oligarc Drive could approach that filter overload of the Slim Phatty but is still not the same (same for the filter feedback and/or the Rotary FX Drive in Diva). A future version could maybe include a proper Tube Drive and we'll see...

BTW the use of the filter drive (e.g. the Tube drive model) in Waldorf Blofeld or Largo is one of the reasons why you could do some quite convincing analog emulations with those (besides the fact that i like the sound of those filters, especially the PPG model in the Blofeld).

As a conclusion you could see my comments more as a general ones and not specifically about Diva (or a specific module in Diva). I have also mentioned that IMO both Diva and Synthix seem to be the closest in terms of analog sound at this date and your work is highly appreciated.
I am looking forward to future updates for Diva like e.g. new filter models or a Tube drive maybe.

PS:
Maybe i'll be at this years Musikmesse again (last year we only met for a few seconds at the entrance...) so we could talk directly there...

Ingo

Fritze · Post by **Fritze** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:23 pm

Urs wrote:
chacka wrote:
Urs wrote:
randyandyvandaman wrote:Diva is not a xerox of a Moog.
Of course not. We pimped it.
Whatcha mean?
Nothing. I just figured that our Minimnoog can't even remotely do that Diva preset "BT the master himself (at+mw+pb)".

Noice one. Of course not.

randyandyvandaman · Post by **randyandyvandaman** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:24 pm

I think you are all sucking one another's dick.

Talk about stroking the devs ego.

Why do we have to have ten threads from the one developer alll the time.

Ban me then f**k you counts.

Cheers

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:24 pm

It's c**ts actually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/c**t

Fritze · Post by **Fritze** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:25 pm

jupiter8 wrote:
chacka wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:
chacka wrote: Right. I want the good shit. But not in the form or a current eating like there's no tomorrow, monophonic, no patch saving wall of cupboard modular.
All inside one laptop. With 1k times the CPU power than I have right now.
Patience young padawan , we'll get there soon enough.
Haha! Nice to be called young. How old are you?
Old enough to have seen Moores Law in action long enough to believe in it. And young enough to see a laptop a thousand times more powerful than what we have today,hopefully. According to Moore that's 10 years away.

Then you are roughly my age. Go ahead. Call me young.

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:26 pm

randyandyvandaman wrote:Here is an actual owner of a Moog Little Phatty and has also tested out DIva. [...]His main statement refers to DIva not being able to cut the low rumbling frequencies of the Moog Little Phatty.[...]Diva is not a xerox of a Moog Little Phatty.

ftfy

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:27 pm

jupiter8 wrote:
chacka wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:
chacka wrote: Right. I want the good shit. But not in the form or a current eating like there's no tomorrow, monophonic, no patch saving wall of cupboard modular.
All inside one laptop. With 1k times the CPU power than I have right now.
Patience young padawan , we'll get there soon enough.
Haha! Nice to be called young. How old are you?
Old enough to have seen Moores Law in action long enough to believe in it. And young enough to see a laptop a thousand times more powerful than what we have today,hopefully. According to Moore that's 10 years away.

It's my impression that cpu's are not keeping up. They are adding more cores, but a single core is not that much faster than a few years ago... right?

Fritze · Post by **Fritze** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:27 pm

randyandyvandaman wrote:I think you are all sucking one another's dick.

Talk about stroking the devs ego.

Why do we have to have ten threads from the one developer alll the time.

Ban me then f**k you counts.

Cheers

What happened? Did the cutoff knob of your Mini broke off?

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:28 pm

chacka wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:
chacka wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:
chacka wrote: Right. I want the good shit. But not in the form or a current eating like there's no tomorrow, monophonic, no patch saving wall of cupboard modular.
All inside one laptop. With 1k times the CPU power than I have right now.
Patience young padawan , we'll get there soon enough.
Haha! Nice to be called young. How old are you?
Old enough to have seen Moores Law in action long enough to believe in it. And young enough to see a laptop a thousand times more powerful than what we have today,hopefully. According to Moore that's 10 years away.
Then you are roughly my age. Go ahead. Call me young.

Well it was my best Yoda impression and he's 900 years old so...

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:30 pm

chacka wrote:
randyandyvandaman wrote:I think you are all sucking one another's dick.

Talk about stroking the devs ego.

Why do we have to have ten threads from the one developer alll the time.

Ban me then f**k you counts.

Cheers
What happened? Did the cutoff knob of your Mini broke off?

Sounds like he needs a hug

Fritze · Post by **Fritze** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:32 pm

pdxindy wrote:
chacka wrote:
randyandyvandaman wrote:I think you are all sucking one another's dick.

Talk about stroking the devs ego.

Why do we have to have ten threads from the one developer alll the time.

Ban me then f**k you counts.

Cheers
What happened? Did the cutoff knob of your Mini broke off?
Sounds like he needs a hug

Yep.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:34 pm

randyandyvandaman wrote:Why do we have to have ten threads from the one developer alll the time.

Where?

(Ah, you're refering to my company forum?)

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:35 pm

pdxindy wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:Old enough to have seen Moores Law in action long enough to believe in it. And young enough to see a laptop a thousand times more powerful than what we have today,hopefully. According to Moore that's 10 years away.
It's my impression that cpu's are not keeping up. They are adding more cores, but a single core is not that much faster than a few years ago... right?

Nothing in Moore's Law that says that the transistors must all share the same core.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:38 pm

hakey wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:Old enough to have seen Moores Law in action long enough to believe in it. And young enough to see a laptop a thousand times more powerful than what we have today,hopefully. According to Moore that's 10 years away.
It's my impression that cpu's are not keeping up. They are adding more cores, but a single core is not that much faster than a few years ago... right?
Nothing in Moore's Law that says that the transistors must all share the same core.

perhaps, but at the moment, more cores does not help run a single instance of a soft synth...

Diva Vs. Real Analog