Just downloaded Reason 6.5 plus a couple of RE's from the shop...

[ravasb]

I think RE could be an interesting concept, but I think the Props played it too safe by just giving us a version of what we already have. It almost feels like they took some pretty modern plugins and sent them back to an 80s hardware rack.

How are they to know what you already have?
if uyou mean 3rd party racks then that issue is with them not the Prop heads

I did not mean just me individually. Most of these products have been around in one form or another, so it is possible that many people already own them in their VST form, and would be hesitant about paying more money to use them in a different environment unless they could do something massively different in that environment. A lot of DAWs today have a lot of clever routing and modulation possiblities in ways that they did not when Reason began.

The issue is with the Props as well, because these are the products they chose to feature.

I like Reason a lot, and will continue to use it, but I am probably just going to stick with what it comes with, until they offer an RE that blows me away.

[Goseba]

Hi anosou,
You seemed to have missed my question a couple of times; is there a list of all updates in 6.5, not just RE related please?

[rlahalla]

Hey Anosou, if you work for the props, how about checking into why it takes so long to get approved as a RE developer. Been over a week now, not even a confirmation of application.

Just looked this up! The SDK has not yet reached 1.0 so we're not really comfortable letting everyone on just yet. This is planned for June 30th and is still on track. Sorry we haven't been in touch about that but as you might imagine we've been slightly busy lately.

Gotcha, thx for checking.

[Anosou]

Hi anosou,
You seemed to have missed my question a couple of times; is there a list of all updates in 6.5, not just RE related please?

Ah sorry! There are practically no updates. "Initialize Patch" is now "Reset Device" and works on all devices. That's about it.

[festeringheap]

For trying REs you need to use internet verification throughout the 30 days. Only purchased REs will be writable to an Ignition Key. You don't have to stay connected to the internet the entire time but when you open a new song or export it'll double check the verification.

Thanks for that.
Another question:

Pulsar looks interesting, and I'd rather get it for free than pay the regular price in Oct.

I am going to keep Reason 6 on my main audio computer for now.

My other computer will have R6.5 installed on it, to demo some REs and take advantage of some intro pricing deals and Pulsar and just generally see what I think about the whole deal.

*So I should be able to log on, change the ignition key to authorize between Reason 6 or v6.5 as needed, right?

*When the time comes to install 6.5 on my main audio computer, I will have access to all the REs that I purchased? I just download again from the Prop site?

Thanks again.

[Goseba]

Hi anosou,
You seemed to have missed my question a couple of times; is there a list of all updates in 6.5, not just RE related please?

Ah sorry! There are practically no updates. "Initialize Patch" is now "Reset Device" and works on all devices. That's about it.

Ok thanks, just wanted to know

[billcarroll]

Rack extensions are a huge fail in my opinion. Beautiful idea, lacking any big picture whatsoever.

1. I already own AU/VST that I would have to repurchase for use with Reason
2. RE purchased for Reason won't work anywhere else
3. See 1 & 2

Technology is littered with examples of superior technology that fails. You have to deliver superior technology that people need/want in a way they will choose to consume it.

Unfortunately, rack extensions are superior tech that meets a niche market of people who only use Reason or just like to buy stuff twice.

[Goseba]

Just uninstalled 6, installed 6.5 and when I try to authourise the Ignition key via my account it cannot find the Ignition Key. The icon is there as usual and when I open up CodeMeter Contral Centre it says enabled. Any ideas?

[Goseba]

Just uninstalled 6, installed 6.5 and when I try to authourise the Ignition key via my account it cannot find the Ignition Key. The icon is there as usual and when I open up CodeMeter Contral Centre it says enabled. Any ideas?

It let me download and write the 2 free RE's to the Ignition Key but whan I try to authorise Reason, my account still says it can find it.

[festeringheap]

Rack extensions are a huge fail in my opinion. Beautiful idea, lacking any big picture whatsoever.

1. I already own AU/VST that I would have to repurchase for use with Reason
2. RE purchased for Reason won't work anywhere else
3. See 1 & 2

4. Your VST/AU that you have purchased (or will purchase in the future) will continue to work in your DAW of choice
5. RE purchased for Reason will be available to use in your DAW of choice via ReWire.
6. #4 can be used with Reason via ReWire.
7. see 4 & 5 & 6

[Anosou]

Just uninstalled 6, installed 6.5 and when I try to authourise the Ignition key via my account it cannot find the Ignition Key. The icon is there as usual and when I open up CodeMeter Contral Centre it says enabled. Any ideas?

It let me download and write the 2 free RE's to the Ignition Key but whan I try to authorise Reason, my account still says it can find it.

A couple of things to check out:

1. Are you running Authorizer 2 that comes with 6.5?

2. Can you log out, clear cookies for Propellerheads.se, and log back in?

3. Kan you confirm the license you're trying to write starts with RSN650 and nothing else?

This is not my area of expertise I'm afraid and support has headed home for the weekend, hopefully you can get it solved ASAP!

For trying REs you need to use internet verification throughout the 30 days. Only purchased REs will be writable to an Ignition Key. You don't have to stay connected to the internet the entire time but when you open a new song or export it'll double check the verification.

Thanks for that.
Another question:

Pulsar looks interesting, and I'd rather get it for free than pay the regular price in Oct.

I am going to keep Reason 6 on my main audio computer for now.

My other computer will have R6.5 installed on it, to demo some REs and take advantage of some intro pricing deals and Pulsar and just generally see what I think about the whole deal.

*So I should be able to log on, change the ignition key to authorize between Reason 6 or v6.5 as needed, right?

*When the time comes to install 6.5 on my main audio computer, I will have access to all the REs that I purchased? I just download again from the Prop site?

Thanks again.

The Ignition Key writes the latest license over the old one so you won't have 6 and 6.5 on it at the same time IIRC. Internet Verification will still work though.

You ALWAYS have access to all your REs as long as you have an internet connection to download them.

[Goseba]

@ anosou,
thanks. I am away from my music PC now, but it was RSN650 I know. I'll clear cookies too when I go back to it.

How do I know it is Authoriser 2? I wouldn't remember what Authoriser 1 looked like.

[billcarroll]

Rack extensions are a huge fail in my opinion. Beautiful idea, lacking any big picture whatsoever.

1. I already own AU/VST that I would have to repurchase for use with Reason
2. RE purchased for Reason won't work anywhere else
3. See 1 & 2

4. Your VST/AU that you have purchased (or will purchase in the future) will continue to work in your DAW of choice
5. RE purchased for Reason will be available to use in your DAW of choice via ReWire.
6. #4 can be used with Reason via ReWire.
7. see 4 & 5 & 6

Well, at least your user name fits the quality of your answer

[Anosou]

@ anosou,
thanks. I am away from my music PC now, but it was RSN650 I know. I'll clear cookies too when I go back to it.

How do I know it is Authoriser 2? I wouldn't remember what Authoriser 1 looked like.

Authorizer 2 is a bigger window with a list of DL licenses (or an empty one if you have none). It's started via the website and you can't launch the website from the authorizer. That's the main difference from 1.

Worst case scenario and you can't get it working during the weekend a fresh install of Reason might be beneficial. Some users report beta files not getting overwritten properly but we're still investigating.

[Goseba]

I wasn't a beta tester so that shouldn't be an issue. The authoriser did start from the web site. Internet verification worked though.