MixControl Pro Discontinued, V2 TBA.

[Nielzie]

Yeah, if he was my actual "employee" it would have all been considered as DNR property, but he was a contractor, and a gracious one at that. He didn't even really get any money for the last update and unconditionally helped me out to get MCP to a usable state. He's definitely one of the best developers I have ever worked with.

Yep, he surely makes high quality stuff. Now I come to think of it, it seems like the NUSofting guy is in a somewhat similar situation with Entity, for which you also contributed to the factory soundbank. Seems like development is halted because Michael does not have the time anymore, or something like that.

It's not even out of beta I wouldn't be surprised if it gets pulled from the market too, because of that.

[rlahalla]

Yep, he surely makes high quality stuff. Now I come to think of it, it seems like the NUSofting guy is in a somewhat similar situation with Entity, for which you also contributed to the factory soundbank. Seems like development is halted because Michael does not have the time anymore, or something like that.

It's not even out of beta I wouldn't be surprised if it gets pulled from the market too, because of that.

Yeah, I don't exactly know what the situation was with that, but I have a feeling it was a similar case. However it worked out, I'm glad Michael was able to get into a position with a company that could pay him what he is worth.

[rlahalla]

Since everyone that has contacted me has already grabbed the V1 release, I'm going to go ahead and take the product off he website in the next few days. Thanks to all who donated and purchased, and I'll keep people informed of the new version once I have more definite plans

[rlahalla]

For those using the current version, I would appreciate it if we could get any feature requests, no matter how large or seemingly impossible, for the next version. I'd like to make sure this next version really has everything that people want.

[Agreed]

Okay, then
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Well-featured Exciter module

Compander module, with independent side chains for compression and expansion

Multi-band compressor with independent side chains per-band

Multi-band limiter/clipper, minimum three bands, full control over attack/release/frequency

Linear or minimum phase options all around

Revamp the saturation section entirely, think Soundtoys Decapitator as a target for sound quality

Transformer emulation for input and output

Full routing options for each module, and adjustable mid/side processing on everything

[khanyz]

A transient/envelope shaper would be handy.

Also, let me know if you need help testing it. I tested the old one.

Cheers,
Kz.

[Doc Jon]

Gain reduction meter on the limiter please

[rifftrax]

So. I bought mixcontrol a long time ago, and then got mixcontrol pro for free, and then now I'm going to have the chance for mixcontrol 2.0 FOR FREE???????????

No way, I must be reading this wrong

Yeah, I know right... I'm having a hard time seeing the problem here.

Am I supposed to be angry and upset about this? I feel like I should based on some of the thread responses.

"FREE?!?!? HOW DARE YOU. AFTER ALL THIS TIME AND I THOUGHT WE HAD AN AGREEMENT <sob>"

i wonder what exactly would be 'acceptable' to some folk like you and SAW75? i guess its alright to shit on tiny informal enthusiast's businesses for being real people with real glitches in their lives because they deserve it somehow, is that right? Trying to do a better thing than the big companies, trying to maintain a dialogue with their customers, trying to be real people instead of a faceless company... well that's just one more angle for the usual suspects to be fucktards about isnt it?

Have to say, this is really pretty spot on.

I'd be very interested to see if any of the detractors have ever owned or run a small business before. Not exactly the easiest thing in the world to do.

[rlahalla]

Thanks a bunch for the support and feature requests I'm definitely keeping a very detailed log of all requests.

[rifftrax]

Revamp the saturation section entirely, think Soundtoys Decapitator as a target for sound quality

I've never used Decapitator but I think the existing saturation algos are really really good in MixControl Pro.

[Agreed]

Revamp the saturation section entirely, think Soundtoys Decapitator as a target for sound quality

I've never used Decapitator but I think the existing saturation algos are really really good in MixControl Pro.

While I agree that for the package cost and given the comprehensive feature set, the MixControl Pro saturation algorithms are great, I think, if I may say so without offending anyone, that Decapitator is pretty much the best at what it does, bar none.

The fact that MCP has good saturation algorithms in addition to everything else is great, but I feel they don't measure up to Soundtoys level of quality. Is it fair to hold up MixControl Pro for its price and given the comparative development budget and history of the developers (Soundtoys being the guys who made THE Eventide algorithms back in the day), AND given that it's a whole channel strip plugin with a great set of features versus a plugin that costs nearly four times as much? Nope, probably not. But he's asked for all suggestions, I have been using the hell out of MixControl Pro since I got it and this is a suggestion I felt like making. He said dream big (paraphrasing), so I am

[Trakstar]

just downloaded all files, perhaps you could do an opto feedback mode for gain reduction as a seperate compressor mode and enhance the limiter because it could really overdo it far too quickly and squash drum mixes to pulp, you could perhaps enhance the interface with Vu meters or something and a better EQ readout where you can see the changes you make a lot easier, please

PS_ the stereo enhancer was a bit too sharp for my liking so different seperation filters could be an idea with different slope settings with a choice of linear or minimal phase settings to give a choice of how best to use it or develop it even further with a proper display to boot.

[Compyfox]

Screw all the Multiband stuff with sidechain and the likes - focus(!!!) on keeping this thing simple. It's a channel strip, not "Alloy" or "Ozone" (aimed at Agreed).

So I'd stick to the original concept of MixControl and do only minor changes:
- the saturation stage (changed a little)
- either 5 or 7 band EQ, additional a LP/HP with switchable order (like PT's EQ)
- Linear Phase/Minimum Phase for the EQ
- proper meters for the Limiter

And most important:
A reference level mode (-18dBFS and 0dBFS for those that still work at that level), along with a proper meter configuration or dual meters (digital peak and VU at 300ms rise/fall).


Keep in mind, Mixcontrol was and still is a channel strip - so keep it a channel strip! If you want a multi purpose tool, get over to MeldaProduction or Izotope. But I want MixControl to stay as it is and use it for what it got popular for: channel strip usage.

And for this, you don't need MultiBand sidechain auto-control crap or transient shaping with transistor inputs/outputs that are fixed. Funk that!


If you think about releasing "singles" along the regular product, then you can think about offering Multiband stuff, not NOT if it stays a channel strip.


Oh and... I wouldn't drop the downloads and purchase of MixControl 1 just yet. Now that we constantly talk about it, it gains popularity and therefore you get a chance for more sales. Even if it's now "discontinued", you announced a v2. So I'd take the oportuinity to get some further income for v2 rather than ditching it alltogether.

Come to think of it, I need to snag an update by Thuesday (not at my main rig currently). Just in case you pull it after all.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Screw all the Multiband stuff with sidechain and the likes.............

i agree with the 'keep it simple' sentiment

[jethrobull]

Screw all the Multiband stuff with sidechain and the likes.............

i agree with the 'keep it simple' sentiment

Yup! +1