KVR Audio

bjporter · Post by **bjporter** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:20 pm

Mojo42 wrote: I presented Tatanka my wip song and he said that less would be anyway more at this kind of song and I also think that it will work with less presets. I have to put off the both Arps by Richard Semper and then I have to look and see what else I still can do with this song, but I will make it finished! Anyhow!!
Amen

You're a beast

Pushing along there nicely

Mojo42 · Post by **Mojo42** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:42 am

bjporter wrote:
Mojo42 wrote: I presented Tatanka my wip song and he said that less would be anyway more at this kind of song and I also think that it will work with less presets. I have to put off the both Arps by Richard Semper and then I have to look and see what else I still can do with this song, but I will make it finished! Anyhow!!
Amen
You're a beast Pushing along there nicely

Yep.

Parduz · Post by **Parduz** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:31 am

Mojo42 wrote:So it seems that we are seeing here typical problems concerning the combination: Cubase Elements 7, Windows 7 and Eclipsis.

I think you can remove the DAW from the combo. Mine is FLStudio, and i got muted (crashed) general output 'cause Eclipsis, and always in the same track spot. Another user found that it was the OSC wave modulation that caused the problem, so i ceased to use it to build my patches (and the one i've derived from presets shared here that uses it i've taking care to not touch that controls).

In the end, I'm guessing that Eclipsis "messes-up" the audio buffer when reaching certain wave-modulation-arp-number of notes combo and each DAW then "react" to the problem in his own way. As i have only Win7/64 PCs, i can't say if the O.S. is involved in the bug.

Mojo42 · Post by **Mojo42** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:28 pm

Parduz wrote:
Mojo42 wrote:So it seems that we are seeing here typical problems concerning the combination: Cubase Elements 7, Windows 7 and Eclipsis.
I think you can remove the DAW from the combo. Mine is FLStudio, and i got muted (crashed) general output 'cause Eclipsis, and always in the same track spot. Another user found that it was the OSC wave modulation that caused the problem, so i ceased to use it to build my patches (and the one i've derived from presets shared here that uses it i've taking care to not touch that controls).

In the end, I'm guessing that Eclipsis "messes-up" the audio buffer when reaching certain wave-modulation-arp-number of notes combo and each DAW then "react" to the problem in his own way. As i have only Win7/64 PCs, i can't say if the O.S. is involved in the bug.

Ah okay. That`s a pity, but thanks for the information. I try to use rather simple constructed presets up from now for to get my song finished. This will work I guess.

Parduz · Post by **Parduz** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:19 am

So, in the end, i did'nt surrender

Here's my entry:
https://soundcloud.com/fabio-calzolari/ ... s-terminus
Instruments:
7 Instances of Eclipsis VST
Effects:
RetroDelay
EpicVerb
FLStudio Parametric EQ2

Definitely not loving this synth. Each sound is near, but not exactly, how i would have liked to be. Is like driving a muscle car with slick tires in a raining day....

Hope you enjoy my track, anyway

esteband · Post by **esteband** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:26 am

Damn, that's a great track. Honestly, when something this good comes along, it makes me a little discouraged. How can my little house ditty compete with something so solid?

This is very well executed; cinematic, emotional, with lots of movement and an unexpected resolution.

Jealously,

-Steve

Parduz · Post by **Parduz** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:43 am

esteband wrote:Damn, that's a great track. [...]
This is very well executed; cinematic, emotional, with lots of movement and an unexpected resolution.

...wow.... thanks!

esteband wrote:Honestly, when something this good comes along, it makes me a little discouraged.

Don't. I feel the same listening to the other tracks. Genre apart, everyone here have differents skills, and i don't have them all, so i always have something to "envy" from someone else

Mojo42 · Post by **Mojo42** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:41 am

@Parduz: I just can agree to esteband. I`m amazed what one can do with only 7 instances. I could listen it for hours, really. I love it!!! Good that you didn`t give up

I listen at the moment your entry for the Hive contest....wow, really awesome. I wish I would have more time for to listen all this great music born by OSC`s.

My news: It works

I had 2 calm nightshifts (God had a mercy) and so I could work on my song a little bit. 7 instances now, it sounds actually like music (

) AND Richard Semper is on board too, with the preset Combi 2 and until now it didn`t get muted by Cubase. I don`t know if I will add more instances. The song would work the way it is now, but I still have a couple of ideas. The last remaining days until the deadline I will spend with improving and completing it. Means: In it`s basic it is finished now and I could post it, but I will take my time (as always

)

TrojakEW · Post by **TrojakEW** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:34 pm

Parduz: Awesome track even if you don't like Eclipsis.

It is interesting to read that almost everyone have problem with more then 10 instances of this plugin or with prests that comes with it. I'm running about 14 years old computer and I never experienced this problem. My only problem is that it collapse even with 6 instances because of low CPU power but I dont have any other issues. I have one testing project with 16 instances and no problem. But it is normal behavior since there are several manufacturer of ccomputer components so there are ulimited number of combination together with OS and drivers that can lead to unexpected results/problems.

Here is small contribution - my new test with Photonic drumkits (cant resist I'm kind of beat addict and this is my usual style of "music"). 12 instances of Eclipsis, Amplio 2 for beat and 2nd instance for strings. DAW limiter on master track. Default and V2 presets modified used for this. In order to complete it I have always need to turn few instances while working because even with buffer set at maximum I can't play it on my old crap without serious shutter. So in order I can hear full composition I need to render it first

. Not made for OSC.
https://soundcloud.com/trojakew/strange-event

Parduz · Post by **Parduz** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:49 pm

TrojakEW wrote:Parduz: Awesome track even if you don't like Eclipsis.

Thanks

And it is not that i don't like it, it is that i don't love it. Now, i don't know if this makes a difference in english: what i mean is that i find it usefuls and genial is some aspect, but it keeps "fighting" me (and perhaps my way to work with synthesis) "stealing" my time from composing.... hope this have some sense

TrojakEW wrote:It is interesting to read that almost everyone have problem with more then 10 instances of this plugin or with prests that comes with it. I'm running about 14 years old computer and I never experienced this problem. My only problem is that it collapse even with 6 instances because of low CPU power but I dont have any other issues. I have one testing project with 16 instances and no problem. But it is normal behavior since there are several manufacturer of ccomputer components so there are ulimited number of combination together with OS and drivers that can lead to unexpected results/problems.

As a developer myself (even if not in the audio/music field) i know this feeling.
I don't know if it's related to how the parts are made. In the image i've attached there's the last part of my track. As you see, there's a lot of long notes, where pads can have 6-notes chords running for a bar, plus the piano arpeggio and so on. Could it be different if i had 7 tracks made by short arps notes?

Also, the picture show an usage of 13% CPU.... this while stopped (i mean, i took the screenshot withou the song playing)... it usually sits around 4% while not playing (only some effects gives me CPU usage even when silent). When the songs runs in the finale the CPU is around 45-50%.
Hope this can help you

Uh, you should really compose something for this OSC.

jdruery · Post by **jdruery** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:09 pm

Hey everyone, I'm giving this a try. The track is called "Crossing the Unknown Abyss".

By the way, this is a great synth -- so many gorgeous sounds to choose from and so intuitive to tweak!

jdruery · Post by **jdruery** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:11 pm

Hey everyone, I'm giving this a try. The track is called "Crossing the Unknown Abyss".

By the way, this is a great synth -- so many gorgeous sounds to choose from and so intuitive to tweak!

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:14 pm

jdruery wrote:Hey everyone, I'm giving this a try. The track is called "Crossing the Unknown Abyss".

By the way, this is a great synth -- so many gorgeous sounds to choose from and so intuitive to tweak!

Hello !

Just copy/paste the URL of your SoundCloud song. Without any BBCode tag.

z.prime · Post by **z.prime** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:48 pm

jdruery wrote:Hey everyone, I'm giving this a try. The track is called "Crossing the Unknown Abyss"

Yes, paste the SoundCloud link, also list the plugins used DAW, number of Eclipsis instances, etc.: https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/rules

Cheers!

jdruery · Post by **jdruery** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:49 pm

Thanks for your help. Here's the link: https://soundcloud.com/jeffdd/jeff-drue ... e-feb-2015

I used Reaper, 9 instances of Eclipsis, the ReaEQ plugin (Cockos), Classic Compressor and Classic Master Limiter (both by Kjaerhus Audio).

Thanks!

One Synth Challenge #72: Eclipsis by VSTZONE (Richard Semper Wins!)