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Shy · Post by **Shy** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:00 pm

Physics.. as if there wasn't enough frustration and confusion

. Also, why wouldn't velocity sensitivity for the filter make sense, if it even makes sense in a monophonic synth?

bungle · Post by **bungle** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:04 pm

Daags wrote:sounds great. i'm interested. would have preferred at least six voices though. fingers crossed for a module version.

saw someone say it will be 600 euros, 500 dollars ? can anyone confirm the euro price ?

That would be a ridiculous disparity in Euro to Dollars, 600 dollars 500 euros is more likely

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:06 pm

bungle wrote:
Daags wrote:sounds great. i'm interested. would have preferred at least six voices though. fingers crossed for a module version.

saw someone say it will be 600 euros, 500 dollars ? can anyone confirm the euro price ?
That would be a ridiculous disparity in Euro to Dollars, 600 dollars 500 euros is more likely

that's what I'm thinking/hoping too. But as a member of the eurozone I'm used to getting a good old shafting.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:08 pm

Shy wrote:Physics.. as if there wasn't enough frustration and confusion . Also, why wouldn't velocity sensitivity for the filter make sense, if it even makes sense in a monophonic synth?

Monophonic is different, because the next played voice kills the currently playing one. And even then, with long release times, velocity sensitivity on a monosynth just feels/sounds weird. With velocity sensitivity in a paraphonic synth you would get weird volume/timbre changes as you add notes in a chord and if you hit them with different velocity. Again, doesn't make sense.

Also, Minilogue's sidechain voice mode wouldn't be possible without filter and VCA per voice. Just make peace with it, it's a 4 voice FULLY POLYPHONIC for $500. Be happy.

lalo · Post by **lalo** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:14 pm

Total preNAMM GAS

I strongly hope for a full 14 bit MIDI CC implementation for every knob/switch/parameter

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:20 pm

^^ 14-bit makes sense since I see parameter changes are shown on the display with a range from 0 to 1000. Not 127!

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:20 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Just make peace with it, it's a 4 voice FULLY POLYPHONIC for $500. Be happy.

But does it have smart aliasing?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:22 pm

Hahahahaha. You're killing it, whyte.

Shy · Post by **Shy** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:23 pm

EvilDragon wrote:With velocity sensitivity in a paraphonic synth you would get weird volume/timbre changes as you add notes in a chord and if you hit them with different velocity. Again, doesn't make sense.

That's exactly what happens in various paraphonic synths, and yep, it's usually not very usable.

Also, Minilogue's sidechain voice mode wouldn't be possible without filter and VCA per voice. Just make peace with it, it's a 4 voice FULLY POLYPHONIC for $500. Be happy.

I have no idea what that mode is, and I definitely would have loved to be happy with a nice polyphonic synth at that price, but both demos so far (there's also an uninteresting minute and a half demo) have showcased only sounds that use a single filter, so I don't believe they both somehow activated a secret "use a single filter" mode while the synth has 4 filters.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:29 pm

Sidechain mode is shown in the Sweetwater demo, in the second half somewhere. It makes each successively played voice quieter if you hold keys. So you can play, say, a 3 voice chord lower, and when you play the 4th voice, it ducks the volume of the held 3 voices down. That needs separate VCAs per voice. When there's a separate VCA per voice, there's a separate filter per voice.

eXode · Post by **eXode** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:39 pm

Here's info on PlugInGuru:
http://www.pluginguru.com/about/skippy

He's demoing the Minilogue @ NAMM and he's now corrected his previous statement. The Minilogue is indeed polyphonic (i.e. 1 filter per voice).

If the guy doing demos @ NAMM doesn't know, then I don't know who does...

Sans Nom · Post by **Sans Nom** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:53 pm

It has been confirmed that it is fully polyphonic by Yves Usson (designer of the mini/microbrute) and Synthwalker from audiofanzine, who both seen the guts of the Minilogue (and tested it of course)

http://forum.anafrog.com/phpBB/viewtopi ... 0&start=60
http://fr.audiofanzine.com/synthe-analo ... e,p.7.html

(french)

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:56 pm

eXode wrote:Here's info on PlugInGuru:
http://www.pluginguru.com/about/skippy

He's demoing the Minilogue @ NAMM and he's now corrected his previous statement. The Minilogue is indeed polyphonic (i.e. 1 filter per voice).

If the guy doing demos @ NAMM doesn't know, then I don't know who does...

Pretty sure he did some of the factory presets too.
rsp

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:57 pm

Sans Nom wrote:It has been confirmed that it is fully polyphonic by Yves Usson (designer of the mini/microbrute) and Synthwalker from audiofanzine, who both seen the guts of the Minilogue (and tested it of course)

http://forum.anafrog.com/phpBB/viewtopi ... 0&start=60
http://fr.audiofanzine.com/synthe-analo ... e,p.7.html

(french)

That seals it as far as I'm concerned. Shy?

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:59 pm

Sans Nom wrote:It has been confirmed that it is fully polyphonic by Yves Usson (designer of the mini/microbrute) and Synthwalker from audiofanzine, who both seen the guts of the Minilogue (and tested it of course)

http://forum.anafrog.com/phpBB/viewtopi ... 0&start=60
http://fr.audiofanzine.com/synthe-analo ... e,p.7.html

(french)

Nah, Shy clearly knows better. He heard it once on a youtube video, and that trumps everything.

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