Testing of Bitwig Studio 5.2 or .3 or .4 ...

[BBFG#]

I really dislike the content sorting in 5b and bc again prefer how 4 defaults to my instruments. Is there a way to change it back in 5?
Also ask if the person using wine/yarbridge if that's an advantage over using the native Linux Bitwig?

[machinesworking]

Which means the one thing that does have a problem with it is the problem. That is Bitwig 5

I completely sympathize with issues, I'm dealing with a crashing project in another DAW right now, trying to determine the problem. That said, it's not always that easy, recently U-He Diva had issues with DP11, every other DAW here it worked fine in, but after contacting both it was U-He who said it was their mistake and would be fixed in an update.

Essentially for every other DAW besides Cubendo developers are reverse engineering hosting and plugin compatibility with VST. It's not that much better with AU, and that's why CLAP exists.

[mjolnir]

ah, dang.
i don't know what went wrong, but my wine bitwig crashed during launch. and won't launch.
so it's not perfect. i spoke too soon earlier. but it's still a pretty nice program. maybe i'd need to fully register since i was just running in demo mode.

[qtheerearranger]

Which means the one thing that does have a problem with it is the problem. That is Bitwig 5

I completely sympathize with issues, I'm dealing with a crashing project in another DAW right now, trying to determine the problem. That said, it's not always that easy, recently U-He Diva had issues with DP11, every other DAW here it worked fine in, but after contacting both it was U-He who said it was their mistake and would be fixed in an update.

Essentially for every other DAW besides Cubendo developers are reverse engineering hosting and plugin compatibility with VST. It's not that much better with AU, and that's why CLAP exists.

have you downloaded the beta version of diva? i had an issue with diva in s1 and its fixed on the beta version posted in the uhe page here on kvr

[machinesworking]

have you downloaded the beta version of diva? i had an issue with diva in s1 and its fixed on the beta version posted in the uhe page here on kvr

They already fixed the issue in DP11. My point was even fantastic developers like U-He can and do release plugins that have an issue with only one DAW. I think it's a matter of DAW hosting all being unique, and that means any workaround done by a plugin developer can end with bugginess in only that DAW.

[mjolnir]

i'm not going to give up on BitWig.
It seems like a really well thought out system.
I had it working on some other Linux a few years ago and there's so many different Linuxes and configs.
And as much as I like Cockos Reaper, I almost always prefer the MIDI of other DAWs instead of Reaper.
Reaper seems impressive for WAV audio but I always feel like a jilted user when it comes to MIDI with Reaper, especially with the lack of better/easier quantizing.
Anyways, I will drop back out of this convo since I'm not fully there yet. peace.

[spoontechnique]

Why are you running Bitwig in WINE? It runs great on Linux, or at least Pop OS (Ubuntu based distro)

[machinesworking]

i'm not going to give up on BitWig.
It seems like a really well thought out system.
I had it working on some other Linux a few years ago and there's so many different Linuxes and configs.
And as much as I like Cockos Reaper, I almost always prefer the MIDI of other DAWs instead of Reaper.
Reaper seems impressive for WAV audio but I always feel like a jilted user when it comes to MIDI with Reaper, especially with the lack of better/easier quantizing.
Anyways, I will drop back out of this convo since I'm not fully there yet. peace.

IMO the quantizing in Reaper is fantastic, it's the MIDI editing with the mouse that required me to spend hours customizing getting it to anywhere near as easy as DAWs like Bitwig.

[EnGee]

IMO the quantizing in Reaper is fantastic, it's the MIDI editing with the mouse that required me to spend hours customizing getting it to anywhere near as easy as DAWs like Bitwig.

I agree. Not only that, but Reaper is overall better IMO.

I'm trying to move to Reaper (in Linux) from Bitwig as the more I work in Bitwig, the more 'meh' I feel! This is due to mediocre instruments, synths and samples compared to the 3rd party (talking Linux native!).

The browser, arrangement, mixer, and performance (among others) are all better in Reaper. The only burden is the midi editing I'm trying to force myself to get used to it. If I succeed, then there is no reason for me to keep Bitwig.

[swilow11]

On 5.2.4, I'm getting quite regular crashes and odd behaviour. Had a crash inserting Phase Mistress- took put a bunch of other plugins and reverted random parameters on other synths to default. Also Falcon is just completely unresponsive, I can launch it but cannot click on anything in the GUI.

Gonna roll back to 5.2 if possible because this is way too chaotic.

[BBFG#]

Getting very long load times with Steinberg plugins and sometimes they won't load at all. And support will not confirm if Steinberg is on their list of tested interfaces... I know they have problems with Roland and Tascam, but Steinberg?

[jens]

Just a quick heads up: whoever renews their Upgrade Plan right now (until Monday) gets u-he Filterscape for free.
I just used an old license code that I had still lying around and it worked. (So there's no need to purchase the renewal from their own shop right now.)

[mjolnir]

Why are you running Bitwig in WINE? It runs great on Linux, or at least Pop OS (Ubuntu based distro)

I don't use Ubunto based Linuxes anymore.
I'm timid about the install process ahaha.

[BBFG#]

Support has gone silent now. Not responding to my last two emails and not confirming if interfaces not on their small list have or will be confirmed or tested. I think the word Steinberg is something they aren't even allowed to say. Likewise with anything using an ASIO driver built off them. Even when asked about directly. So I'm looking at the very cheapest interface I can now since I'm losing trust in them at this point. Behringer and Zoom aren't on their list either though. (Behringer being cheap, Zoom being small and portable.) Just started looking at the Mackie Oynx too, but it's not on their list either.

[EnGee]

Support has gone silent now. Not responding to my last two emails and not confirming if interfaces not on their small list have or will be confirmed or tested. I think the word Steinberg is something they aren't even allowed to say. Likewise with anything using an ASIO driver built off them. Even when asked about directly. So I'm looking at the very cheapest interface I can now since I'm losing trust in them at this point. Behringer and Zoom aren't on their list either though. (Behringer being cheap, Zoom being small and portable.) Just started looking at the Mackie Oynx too, but it's not on their list either.

Just to clarify my situation, I have two Yamaha/Steinberg audio interfaces that its ASIO dirver doesn't have a problem with Bitwig. Those are my MODX audio interface and Steinberg IXO 22. Both work fine. But I don't use them because my Tascam has a good headphones support (250 OHM headphones that IXO 22 doesn't support!).
Tascam ASIO drivers are not the best really. Sometimes with other DAWs I begin to feel a big latency! I need to restart my PC. So I can't blame only Bitwig for that. Anyway, I don't use Bitwig on Windows now. Ableton Live 12 has fewer problems on my Windows PC. It even runs better on Mac (which has zero problems with any audio interface/DAW I use with!).