Eiosis AirEQ v1.3

[akisd28]

Yes, it does.

[OMU]

It runs well here together with a XSKey and an iLok. And it's on the same key with SX2 w/o problems.

[hitman8081]

Limited AirEQ demo version features :

• Same sound quality than the full version
• No time limitation
• No preset creation, edition or save
• Parameters not saved in host, that's mean that equalization parameters are reset on each AirEQ launch
• No automation support
• No "Class Bands by Frequency Order" option

You can also read more information about AirEQ by reading this page : AirEQ FAQ

Feel free to post here your thougts and comments !
It is very important for us to read what people are thinking about AirEQ,
in order to constantly improve AirEQ's characteritics, features, ergonomics, etc...

Fabrice,
Eliosound

well, as a person that could never afford to pay for air eq, im realy glad you used the terms 'limited demo version' because thats what it is a demo. a limited demo. people like aixcoustic creations give away a free limited fully functional version because not everybody can afford to sacrifice a months paycheck for a piece of software. do you realy need to charge almost 300 dollars for one effect?

why do you think people use warez? then you people complain how warez affects the software industry bla bla wah wah. im one of a small bunch that chooses to do without and use freeware rather then steal a companys hardwork and time. i often question how any average joe is able to sacrifice 300 dollars from there paycheck for a piece of software. you know what? they cant. an average as in those who work part time or fulltime on mimimum wage?

do you guys ever consider that or are you too bust lining yourt pockets? why not sell it for 30 or 50 bucks? you know software isnt hardware. it costs you nothing to create a copy.

if you charge a small price then in the end you will profit more. how many people do you think can actauly afford air eq vs those who cant? not many. now ask yourself how many people would buy it if they could afford it? alot. it all comes down to greed and the almighty buck

[Eiosis]

Good point bduffy - I could still try the crippled version...if I made a purchase out here on the road I'm thinking I could lose the dongle or my laptop might get dongle-itis some morning when I need it for work...the other thing is when remastering sometimes I need independent L/R controls on the EQ - I don't think this one does that. hehe more excuses...

It will be done.. In a future update, I think we will make a separate tuning for L/R and M/S channels.

Hello,
Does vst version comes with seperate mono and stereo version of plugin?
o.

I beleive that the VST version automatically handles mono and stereo processing. About the CPU, I don't know exactly how the VST version handles the internal processing. I will check that and I'll get back to you !


Fabrice,
Eliosound

[Arksun]

Limited AirEQ demo version features :

• Same sound quality than the full version
• No time limitation
• No preset creation, edition or save
• Parameters not saved in host, that's mean that equalization parameters are reset on each AirEQ launch
• No automation support
• No "Class Bands by Frequency Order" option

You can also read more information about AirEQ by reading this page : AirEQ FAQ

Feel free to post here your thougts and comments !
It is very important for us to read what people are thinking about AirEQ,
in order to constantly improve AirEQ's characteritics, features, ergonomics, etc...

Fabrice,
Eliosound

well, as a person that could never afford to pay for air eq, im realy glad you used the terms 'limited demo version' because thats what it is a demo. a limited demo. people like aixcoustic creations give away a free limited fully functional version because not everybody can afford to sacrifice a months paycheck for a piece of software. do you realy need to charge almost 300 dollars for one effect?

why do you think people use warez? then you people complain how warez affects the software industry bla bla wah wah. im one of a small bunch that chooses to do without and use freeware rather then steal a companys hardwork and time. i often question how any average joe is able to sacrifice 300 dollars from there paycheck for a piece of software. you know what? they cant. an average as in those who work part time or fulltime on mimimum wage?

do you guys ever consider that or are you too bust lining yourt pockets? why not sell it for 30 or 50 bucks? you know software isnt hardware. it costs you nothing to create a copy.

if you charge a small price then in the end you will profit more. how many people do you think can actauly afford air eq vs those who cant? not many. now ask yourself how many people would buy it if they could afford it? alot. it all comes down to greed and the almighty buck

No offence, but you're an idiot.

By that logic, every single piece of software ever made should be made to cost $50 tops.

The price reflects its worth in terms of the quality of the tool that it is. Grow up

[op519]

Limited AirEQ demo version features :

• Same sound quality than the full version
• No time limitation
• No preset creation, edition or save
• Parameters not saved in host, that's mean that equalization parameters are reset on each AirEQ launch
• No automation support
• No "Class Bands by Frequency Order" option

You can also read more information about AirEQ by reading this page : AirEQ FAQ

Feel free to post here your thougts and comments !
It is very important for us to read what people are thinking about AirEQ,
in order to constantly improve AirEQ's characteritics, features, ergonomics, etc...

Fabrice,
Eliosound

well, as a person that could never afford to pay for air eq, im realy glad you used the terms 'limited demo version' because thats what it is a demo. a limited demo. people like aixcoustic creations give away a free limited fully functional version because not everybody can afford to sacrifice a months paycheck for a piece of software. do you realy need to charge almost 300 dollars for one effect?

why do you think people use warez? then you people complain how warez affects the software industry bla bla wah wah. im one of a small bunch that chooses to do without and use freeware rather then steal a companys hardwork and time. i often question how any average joe is able to sacrifice 300 dollars from there paycheck for a piece of software. you know what? they cant. an average as in those who work part time or fulltime on mimimum wage?

do you guys ever consider that or are you too bust lining yourt pockets? why not sell it for 30 or 50 bucks? you know software isnt hardware. it costs you nothing to create a copy.

if you charge a small price then in the end you will profit more. how many people do you think can actauly afford air eq vs those who cant? not many. now ask yourself how many people would buy it if they could afford it? alot. it all comes down to greed and the almighty buck

First their demo is one of the most feature full demos I have seen. Further it is very usable. You don't have to deal with beeps/noise/silence so you could very well use as you would a retail eq. It doesn't save but what do you want, its a demo.

As for the price, AirEQ is pure class. Obviously a lot of care has gone into it. You want a $50 eq, go get one (im sure there are many around) but chances are it wont sound like this.

In this case, you definately get what you pay for.

And just because you can't afford it does not mean that the developers are greedy. You simply cannot tell how much time went into developement

[hitman8081]

Limited AirEQ demo version features :

• Same sound quality than the full version
• No time limitation
• No preset creation, edition or save
• Parameters not saved in host, that's mean that equalization parameters are reset on each AirEQ launch
• No automation support
• No "Class Bands by Frequency Order" option

You can also read more information about AirEQ by reading this page : AirEQ FAQ

Feel free to post here your thougts and comments !
It is very important for us to read what people are thinking about AirEQ,
in order to constantly improve AirEQ's characteritics, features, ergonomics, etc...

Fabrice,
Eliosound

well, as a person that could never afford to pay for air eq, im realy glad you used the terms 'limited demo version' because thats what it is a demo. a limited demo. people like aixcoustic creations give away a free limited fully functional version because not everybody can afford to sacrifice a months paycheck for a piece of software. do you realy need to charge almost 300 dollars for one effect?

why do you think people use warez? then you people complain how warez affects the software industry bla bla wah wah. im one of a small bunch that chooses to do without and use freeware rather then steal a companys hardwork and time. i often question how any average joe is able to sacrifice 300 dollars from there paycheck for a piece of software. you know what? they cant. an average as in those who work part time or fulltime on mimimum wage?

do you guys ever consider that or are you too bust lining yourt pockets? why not sell it for 30 or 50 bucks? you know software isnt hardware. it costs you nothing to create a copy.

if you charge a small price then in the end you will profit more. how many people do you think can actauly afford air eq vs those who cant? not many. now ask yourself how many people would buy it if they could afford it? alot. it all comes down to greed and the almighty buck

No offence, but you're an idiot.

By that logic, every single piece of software ever made should be made to cost $50 tops.

The price reflects its worth in terms of the quality of the tool that it is. Grow up

nope. im not backing down. my opinion stays

[hitman8081]

Limited AirEQ demo version features :

• Same sound quality than the full version
• No time limitation
• No preset creation, edition or save
• Parameters not saved in host, that's mean that equalization parameters are reset on each AirEQ launch
• No automation support
• No "Class Bands by Frequency Order" option

You can also read more information about AirEQ by reading this page : AirEQ FAQ

Feel free to post here your thougts and comments !
It is very important for us to read what people are thinking about AirEQ,
in order to constantly improve AirEQ's characteritics, features, ergonomics, etc...

Fabrice,
Eliosound

well, as a person that could never afford to pay for air eq, im realy glad you used the terms 'limited demo version' because thats what it is a demo. a limited demo. people like aixcoustic creations give away a free limited fully functional version because not everybody can afford to sacrifice a months paycheck for a piece of software. do you realy need to charge almost 300 dollars for one effect?

why do you think people use warez? then you people complain how warez affects the software industry bla bla wah wah. im one of a small bunch that chooses to do without and use freeware rather then steal a companys hardwork and time. i often question how any average joe is able to sacrifice 300 dollars from there paycheck for a piece of software. you know what? they cant. an average as in those who work part time or fulltime on mimimum wage?

do you guys ever consider that or are you too bust lining yourt pockets? why not sell it for 30 or 50 bucks? you know software isnt hardware. it costs you nothing to create a copy.

if you charge a small price then in the end you will profit more. how many people do you think can actauly afford air eq vs those who cant? not many. now ask yourself how many people would buy it if they could afford it? alot. it all comes down to greed and the almighty buck

First their demo is one of the most feature full demos I have seen. Further it is very usable. You don't have to deal with beeps/noise/silence so you could very well use as you would a retail eq. It doesn't save but what do you want, its a demo.

As for the price, AirEQ is pure class. Obviously a lot of care has gone into it. You want a $50 eq, go get one (im sure there are many around) but chances are it wont sound like this.

In this case, you definately get what you pay for.

And just because you can't afford it does not mean that the developers are greedy. You simply cannot tell how much time went into developement

then why your at it go spend 1000 on plpareq. waves is very good too dont you think? and dont forget to spend 400 dolars onn a reverb

[bduffy]

Limited AirEQ demo version features :

• Same sound quality than the full version
• No time limitation
• No preset creation, edition or save
• Parameters not saved in host, that's mean that equalization parameters are reset on each AirEQ launch
• No automation support
• No "Class Bands by Frequency Order" option

You can also read more information about AirEQ by reading this page : AirEQ FAQ

Feel free to post here your thougts and comments !
It is very important for us to read what people are thinking about AirEQ,
in order to constantly improve AirEQ's characteritics, features, ergonomics, etc...

Fabrice,
Eliosound

well, as a person that could never afford to pay for air eq, im realy glad you used the terms 'limited demo version' because thats what it is a demo. a limited demo. people like aixcoustic creations give away a free limited fully functional version because not everybody can afford to sacrifice a months paycheck for a piece of software. do you realy need to charge almost 300 dollars for one effect?

why do you think people use warez? then you people complain how warez affects the software industry bla bla wah wah. im one of a small bunch that chooses to do without and use freeware rather then steal a companys hardwork and time. i often question how any average joe is able to sacrifice 300 dollars from there paycheck for a piece of software. you know what? they cant. an average as in those who work part time or fulltime on mimimum wage?

do you guys ever consider that or are you too bust lining yourt pockets? why not sell it for 30 or 50 bucks? you know software isnt hardware. it costs you nothing to create a copy.

if you charge a small price then in the end you will profit more. how many people do you think can actauly afford air eq vs those who cant? not many. now ask yourself how many people would buy it if they could afford it? alot. it all comes down to greed and the almighty buck

No offence, but you're an idiot.

By that logic, every single piece of software ever made should be made to cost $50 tops.

The price reflects its worth in terms of the quality of the tool that it is. Grow up

Mute is your friend.

[Eiosis]

i often question how any average joe is able to sacrifice 300 dollars from there paycheck for a piece of software. you know what? they cant. an average as in those who work part time or fulltime on mimimum wage?

If you can't, don't buy it!
I also sometimes use freewares, but when I need a tool, I buy it. And I must admit that a lot of my budget, sometimes a half of several month budget is spent for music. I'm just impassioned.

do you guys ever consider that or are you too bust lining yourt pockets? why not sell it for 30 or 50 bucks? you know software isnt hardware. it costs you nothing to create a copy.

Wow.. Selling a software copy DOES cost some money. You have support (to me, fast support is a VERY important point), distribution (not our case for the moment), and many other things. Creating a copy is not selling a copy, that's the difference.

And the price of a software must represents its quality and intrinsic value. We spent a HUGE amount of time on AirEQ, that's why I consider that the price could be higher than other products with basic algorithms (I will not use the over used argument "our product is the result of many years of research blablabla", but believe me it was a real challenge to develop the AMTL algorithms).

if you charge a small price then in the end you will profit more. how many people do you think can actauly afford air eq vs those who cant? not many. now ask yourself how many people would buy it if they could afford it? alot. it all comes down to greed and the almighty buck

Wow again.. Did you ever make market analysis or commercial studies ? Selling a product is MUCH MORE complicated that "the lower is the price, the higher are the sales, so the higher are the turnover". It works with a perfect and infinite market. It does not work with the audio market, since it is far from being perfect and infinite. I believe that many developers who sell their plugins for a low price have some difficulties to live. And to develop new and innovative products.

I must admit that AirEQ has a rather "professional" price. But it also has professional features, our goal is to have a professional customer support and relationship, to constantly improve our products, and to continue research and developement.

But I understand your point of view : as a customer, you want to pay less for more quality. If this equation functioned, Photoshop would cost 50 bucks.

Mute is your friend.

Anyway, when you are on the other side, you really understand what does "running a business" mean. So it's always important to read the customer (or the potential one.. or the non-potential one.. *ahem* ) point of view.


Fabrice,
Eliosound

[hitman8081]

i often question how any average joe is able to sacrifice 300 dollars from there paycheck for a piece of software. you know what? they cant. an average as in those who work part time or fulltime on mimimum wage?

If you can't, don't buy it!
I also sometimes use freewares, but when I need a tool, I buy it. And I must admit that a lot of my budget, sometimes a half of several month budget is spent for music. I'm just impassioned.

do you guys ever consider that or are you too bust lining yourt pockets? why not sell it for 30 or 50 bucks? you know software isnt hardware. it costs you nothing to create a copy.

Wow.. Selling a software copy DOES cost some money. You have support (to me, fast support is a VERY important point), distribution (not our case for the moment), and many other things. Creating a copy is not selling a copy, that's the difference.

And the price of a software must represents its quality and intrinsic value. We spent a HUGE amount of time on AirEQ, that's why I consider that the price could be higher than other products with basic algorithms (I will not use the over used argument "our product is the result of many years of research blablabla", but believe me it was a real challenge to develop the AMTL algorithms).

if you charge a small price then in the end you will profit more. how many people do you think can actauly afford air eq vs those who cant? not many. now ask yourself how many people would buy it if they could afford it? alot. it all comes down to greed and the almighty buck

Wow again.. Did you ever make market analysis or commercial studies ? Selling a product is MUCH MORE complicated that "the lower is the price, the higher are the sales, so the higher are the turnover". It works with a perfect and infinite market. It does not work with the audio market, since it is far from being perfect and infinite. I believe that many developers who sell their plugins for a low price have some difficulties to live. And to develop new and innovative products.

I must admit that AirEQ has a rather "professional" price. But it also has professional features, our goal is to have a professional customer support and relationship, to constantly improve our products, and to continue research and developement.

But I understand your point of view : as a customer, you want to pay less for more quality. If this equation functioned, Photoshop would cost 50 bucks.


Fabrice,
Eliosound

so are you telling me that if i created an acces virus plugin, and sold it for 30 bucks it wouldnt sell like hotcakes destroying any competion in its way? so your basicly saying that if i priced the virus plug at 600 dollars id make a killing? you see. your answer works at the present moment but in a small period of time, those that couldnt afford it would soon be able too.

and since the majority of americans are people in the middle and especialy lower class. i dont agree. you know the price for your eq is more then most people can afford. you dont see coke charging 10.00 dollars for a can or mcdonalds charging 20 dollars for a value meal.

of course, somebody who was realy hungry or realy thirtsty would pay that much. mother is the nessity of invention. i dont recall ever paying a 1000 dollars for a floppy disk and software didnt start at prices like this. you guys have been raiseing the prices every year. and im not just talking about your company. im refering to the new "sell your car buy a studio trend"

[Eiosis]

so are you telling me that if i created an acces virus plugin, and sold it for 30 bucks it wouldnt sell like hotcakes destroying any competion in its way? so your basicly saying that if i priced the virus plug at 600 dollars id make a killing? you see. your answer works at the present moment but in a small period of time, those that couldnt afford it would soon be able too.

Believe me, if you succeed to create a perfect access virus plugin, you will not sell it 30 bucks !
I just invite you to read a marketing book or something related, and you'll understand that the things are no so simple than what you describe. Or just to run a plugin business. Or any business. And you will REALLY understand what's going on. I'm not gonna explain all the marketing and commercial issues of a real market here.
Why the Photoshop price is much more higher than the Paint Shop Pro price ? There MUST be a reason.

and since the majority of americans are people in the middle and especialy lower class. i dont agree. you know the price for your eq is more then most people can afford. you dont see coke charging 10.00 dollars for a can or mcdonalds charging 20 dollars for a value meal.

Again, it is not the same market at all.. You can not apply the rules of one market to another. Photoshop has also a price that most people can't afford.

you guys have been raiseing the prices every year. and im not just talking about your company. im refering to the new "sell your car buy a studio trend"

Impossible ! We are new on the audio market !!
Hmm... Ten years ago, you could just hope to make a little funny song for your mother's birthday with your computer. Now, for the same budget in music computer and software, you can barely produce a whole album.
I do not feel that prices have raised a lot in the past years, but the quality has certainly raised.

Anyway, here we meet different people and different markets, and I believe that the "non professional" market is not the same that the "professional" market. Different goals, different budgets, different needs, etc..
You need to understand the market mechanisms to understand that it is not possible to sell professional products with a consumer price. Or your business will not last a very long time.


Fabrice,
Eliosound

[hitman8081]

You need to understand the market mechanisms to understand that it is not possible to sell professional products with a consumer price. Or your business will not last a very long time.
Fabrice,
Eliosound

i know this fabrice. and my rant was never directed at you. im just pissed at the new use of the word 'proessional' it seems as you pointed out anything marketed to be 'professional' needs to be very pricy and that pisses me off where the software market is heading. i used to buy software all the time.

spent over a thousand dollars over a few years. but this new 'pro' marketing title is just disturbing to be. and its not just the software market thats doing this its being done evrywhere. 'state of the art' 'breakthru' 'advancement of science' are just words to raise the value of an item.

how ever you look it its still technology. i think if you asked an older person what they though of todays market they would shake there head in disgust. a product doesnt have a value before the value is created. true, the r and r is always put into acount but the end the value of an item is determined by its ability to showcase itself and the dirty word 'profit' comes to mind. good luck with your buisness fabrice. i mean that. theres always freeware

[Eiosis]

i know this fabrice. and my rant was never directed at you. im just pissed at the new use of the word 'proessional' it seems as you pointed out anything marketed to be 'professional' needs to be very pricy and that pisses me off where the software market is heading. i used to buy software all the time.

spent over a thousand dollars over a few years. but this new 'pro' marketing title is just disturbing to be. and its not just the software market thats doing this its being done evrywhere. 'state of the art' 'breakthru' 'advancement of science' are just words to raise the value of an item.

So.. We both agree !

I tried to use some words that really means something when I talk about Eliosound and AirEQ. Maybe I also may not use the "professional" word. For me, professional is a word that means that the product is intended to be used by professional people.

But bad marketing took this word and transformed it into a cheap arguments, with other arguments like "analog modeled product", "many years of research", "outstanding quality", "super mega bass boost", etc..

Bad marketing is also slapping a GUI of some hardware gear and claiming that it IS EXACTLY like the original hardware. We are not in this bad marketing claims. Customers, professional or not, must be respected and must not be fooled with false arguments.
If you slap an hardware-like GUI, you can say for some products that : "it is rather close to the original thing", "it emulates many of the characteristics of the hardware", or "it reproduces this or this behaviour", etc..

I was in the AES convention, and meeting other plugin companies was really funny. Some people exactly know what their plugin does and does not, and other simply don't care about it. Or simply discover their plugin while I try to explain some issues to us (hey Roger.. I hope that you are not too angry against me ! ). Some people also found that AirEQ was no more than "a good marketing product", probably because they do the same way for their products.

For me, good marketing must reflect the real value of the product, and must represent what the product really is. But nowadays, it is not sufficient, because all these arguments are overused and lost their signification, like you pointed out. So we have to explain the things, and I find KVR to be a great place for that, because people here are aware of what is the truth, what is false advertisement. They simply want to understand and to test the things by themselves.

If everybody acted like this, bad marketing would not exist.


Fabrice,
Eliosound

[kylen]

...the other thing is when remastering sometimes I need independent L/R controls on the EQ - I don't think this one does that. hehe more excuses...

It will be done.. In a future update, I think we will make a separate tuning for L/R and M/S channels.

Oh Behave !