Anybody got a Plugiator yet ?

[david.beholder]

I want a plugiator that works like a UAD or Powercore Firewire. No A/D conversions.

It's called Scope

http://www.sonic-core.net/en/home/home.html

Does it support vst?

[Megakazbek]

I want a plugiator that works like a UAD or Powercore Firewire. No A/D conversions.

I think the main point of Plugiator is that it works standalone, without a computer.
Making Plugiator tied to a computer like UAD or Powercore will deprive it of any sense, there are already Scope boards for such use.

[buscemi]

I like mine the way it is. I don't even need the VSTi crap. I play it like a -gasp- real outboard hardware unit and record the audio while making sure I capture a MIDI track to either send elsewhere to layer or back through the Plugiator after adjusting if I did something particularly clamarific in there. Suits my workflow and retains some human element IMO.

[aMUSEd]

I want a plugiator that works like a UAD or Powercore Firewire. No A/D conversions.

It's called Scope

http://www.sonic-core.net/en/home/home.html

Im saying there should be something inbetween a £300 single DSP outboard desktop unit and a £3000 rack mount I/O system.....

Well there is - the DSP card versions

[aMUSEd]

I want a plugiator that works like a UAD or Powercore Firewire. No A/D conversions.

It's called Scope

http://www.sonic-core.net/en/home/home.html

Does it support vst?

Yes - if you want to work that way there are VST versions of all the main plugins (and most of the third party ones such as Solaris too)

[SWAN808]

I want a plugiator that works like a UAD or Powercore Firewire. No A/D conversions.

It's called Scope

http://www.sonic-core.net/en/home/home.html

Im saying there should be something inbetween a £300 single DSP outboard desktop unit and a £3000 rack mount I/O system.....

Well there is - the DSP card versions

Oh yeah those are PC only...And I thought discontinued? Is there going to be continued development of those cards? If they made a small one you could tack onto a native system for Mac I'd be interested...

[aMUSEd]

No they're not discontinued. The OS5 that is being released for the new XCite boxes is also backwards compatible with the cards so those of us that upgraded to version 4 get a free upgrade I believe it will also support Vista but I don't know about OSX I'm afraid.

[david.beholder]

I like mine the way it is. I don't even need the VSTi crap. I play it like a -gasp- real outboard hardware unit and record the audio while making sure I capture a MIDI track to either send elsewhere to layer or back through the Plugiator after adjusting if I did something particularly clamarific in there. Suits my workflow and retains some human element IMO.

Well, do not want to start any kinda flame. IMO vst integrated in daw is easier and faster way to do it, especially if there's lot of pure software vst instruments and effects.

[buscemi]

I like mine the way it is. I don't even need the VSTi crap. I play it like a -gasp- real outboard hardware unit and record the audio while making sure I capture a MIDI track to either send elsewhere to layer or back through the Plugiator after adjusting if I did something particularly clamarific in there. Suits my workflow and retains some human element IMO.

Well, do not want to start any kinda flame. IMO vst integrated in daw is easier and faster way to do it, especially if there's lot of pure software vst instruments and effects.

Just for the record I meant the VSTi crap as in the VSTi version of Plugiator because it works almost as easily for me as it is without that overhead - I'd rather see the effort go elsewhere. Was not meaning all VSTi of course, got plenty of those and no beef with the concept at all

[david.beholder]

I want a plugiator that works like a UAD or Powercore Firewire. No A/D conversions.

It's called Scope

http://www.sonic-core.net/en/home/home.html

Does it support vst?

Yes - if you want to work that way there are VST versions of all the main plugins (and most of the third party ones such as Solaris too)

Sorry for asking, but i couldn't find anything about what is working with vsti and what is not on their site (www.sonic-core.net) may be you know where to check it.

And as well, if you have one, could you tell a little bit about the experience with it? What you like and what you don't.

[fx1mark]

[quote="buscemi"][quote="david.beholder"][quote="buscemi"]I like mine the way it is. I don't even need the VSTi crap. I play it like a -gasp- real outboard hardware unit and record the audio while making sure I capture a MIDI track to either send elsewhere to layer or back through the Plugiator after adjusting if I did something particularly clamarific in there. Suits my workflow and retains some human element IMO.[/quote]

Well, do not want to start any kinda flame. IMO vst integrated in daw is easier and faster way to do it, especially if there's lot of pure software vst instruments and effects.[/quote]
Just for the record I meant the VSTi crap as in the VSTi version of Plugiator because it works almost as easily for me as it is without that overhead - I'd rather see the effort go elsewhere. Was not meaning all VSTi of course, got plenty of those and no beef with the concept at all :)[/quote]


Ray at Use Audio posted here a couple of weeks ago that the beta VSTi for the plugiator should be ready in a couple of weeks (as in any day now). I too am happy with the plugiator just as it is, but would certainly like to try out the VST interface.

[aMUSEd]

I want a plugiator that works like a UAD or Powercore Firewire. No A/D conversions.

It's called Scope

http://www.sonic-core.net/en/home/home.html

Does it support vst?

Yes - if you want to work that way there are VST versions of all the main plugins (and most of the third party ones such as Solaris too)

Sorry for asking, but i couldn't find anything about what is working with vsti and what is not on their site (www.sonic-core.net) may be you know where to check it.

And as well, if you have one, could you tell a little bit about the experience with it? What you like and what you don't.

Well for starters it will certainly be the same plugins that the Plugiator has since they are on both platforms. I suspect the way they work will be similar too (and in essence not a million miles away from other DSP powered VST plugins like Poco and UAD). In other words the benefits would be no tax on your cpu and high quality sound. The deficit will be a certain amount of latency but with the Scope cards the ASIO is good enough quality to get that down to a usable minimum (and I assume the same is true of the others). The Scope cards (and I guess the Plugiator) also have a latency free mode but this is where you play the plugins using their own sound interface, not ASIO/VST (like a hardware synth). The advantage as I see it the Scope cards have over the Plugiator is simply that there are more plugins to choose from including some great effects as well as the Plugiator plugins seem to be a selection of the older Scope ones but none of the newer ones.

[aMUSEd]

I want a plugiator that works like a UAD or Powercore Firewire. No A/D conversions.

It's called Scope

http://www.sonic-core.net/en/home/home.html

Does it support vst?

Yes - if you want to work that way there are VST versions of all the main plugins (and most of the third party ones such as Solaris too)

Sorry for asking, but i couldn't find anything about what is working with vsti and what is not on their site (www.sonic-core.net) may be you know where to check it.

And as well, if you have one, could you tell a little bit about the experience with it? What you like and what you don't.

Well for starters it will certainly be the same plugins that the Plugiator has since they are on both platforms. I suspect the way they work will be similar too (and in essence not a million miles away from other DSP powered VST plugins like Poco and UAD). In other words the benefits would be no tax on your cpu and high quality sound. The deficit will be a certain amount of latency but with the Scope cards the ASIO is good enough quality to get that down to a usable minimum (and I assume the same is true of the others). The Scope cards (and I guess the Plugiator) also have a latency free mode but this is where you play the plugins using their own sound interface, not ASIO/VST (like a hardware synth). The advantage as I see it the Scope cards have over the Plugiator is simply that there are more plugins to choose from including some great effects as well as the Plugiator plugins seem to be a selection of the older Scope ones but none of the newer ones. The Scope cards also function as good quality sound cards and have the best routing system of any sound card so that would also be a bonus.

[cram1960]

I want a plugiator that works like a UAD or Powercore Firewire. No A/D conversions.

It's called Scope

http://www.sonic-core.net/en/home/home.html

Im saying there should be something inbetween a £300 single DSP outboard desktop unit and a £3000 rack mount I/O system.....

As the website clearly shows there are levels to the Scope platform :

3 DSP (498 eur), 6 DSP (998 eur), 14 DSP (798 eur) versions are available, as well as the X-CITE 1(2698 eur).

Are we done yet?

[fx1mark]

I wrote a review of the plugiator and posted it on harmony-central In case anyone would like to read it.

http://tinyurl.com/cnfpcy