Well No wonder why you hate Sylenth1. Because you Hate the type of Music that one would use it for? Your just Bias because you Hate Electronic Dance Music. With a name like aciddose one would think that you would be a big fan of the TB-303 and the whole Acid Dance movement? I guess not?aciddose wrote:yes, most "dance music" is mindless drivel. the whole "satisfaction" craze for example lasted a year or so. now where is the guy? i hope he made something for himself off that album of 15 tracks all the same with one that got popular and spread across the internet via piracy.
now who can you name in the scene that is really famous, that has lasted and will become something like kraftwerk? that's the sort of stuff i have an appreciation for.
if you're doing that mindless stuff and sylenth is a great synth for that, cool, it just isn't "the best sounding synth", don't be rediculous. what gave "satisfaction" it's 15 minutes of fame? was it just the compressed ressy saw? shouldn't the whole album and all the following clones have been huge then?
it was a combination of factors that pushed that track out and got it air play and play in the clubs. but who, honestly, fondly remembers it and will go out in twenty years to buy a remastered version of the album?
if you're going to get philosophical you'd better make a deeper examination of your arguments before posting them.
Does any other VST sound as good as Sylenth?
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- KVRAF
- 2812 posts since 30 Oct, 2006 from The City that Started House Music
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- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
where are the other hit tracks then? the fact i haven't heard of a single one from the guy since several years ago shows there hasn't been another one and i doubt that there will be when i listen to the current stuff and the rest of the album the last one was one.Uh... Benny Benassi and his production partner are still going strong. I just saw the future music interview.
i'm just thinking of these sorts of things on another level, i guess, so it doesn't make sense to a lot of people.
it's sort of like sitting and tasting every droplet of toilet water when you've got a bottle of good wine in the wine rack. i guess that doesn't make sense to you either if you're not already following on what i've said.
i do actually have a steel guitar.You don't make Country Music do you?
...and no i'm not a fan of 303s or acid house.
the 'acid' in my name is more about pulling down your ph.
- KVRAF
- 7795 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
Well you don't even have to listen closely to hear that his influence is everywhere. Benny Benassi pretty much started the whole Electro House scene.
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- KVRian
- 1329 posts since 25 Dec, 2005 from Devon, England
I think that this argument could be applied to "hit" tracks in every genre. Popularity in the main seems to be driven by some kind of mass hysteria. That and putting a lot of cute girls in the videos.aciddose wrote:yes, most "dance music" is mindless drivel. the whole "satisfaction" craze for example lasted a year or so. now where is the guy? i hope he made something for himself off that album of 15 tracks all the same with one that got popular and spread across the internet via piracy.
now who can you name in the scene that is really famous, that has lasted and will become something like kraftwerk? that's the sort of stuff i have an appreciation for.
if you're doing that mindless stuff and sylenth is a great synth for that, cool, it just isn't "the best sounding synth", don't be rediculous. what gave "satisfaction" it's 15 minutes of fame? was it just the compressed ressy saw? shouldn't the whole album and all the following clones have been huge then?
it was a combination of factors that pushed that track out and got it air play and play in the clubs. but who, honestly, fondly remembers it and will go out in twenty years to buy a remastered version of the album?
if you're going to get philosophical you'd better make a deeper examination of your arguments before posting them.
*backtracks a little*
Hmmm. perhaps the argument applies to dance more than most genres after all, because the style / production / who did the remix is more important than the actual song content. I'm not belittling dance music (when it's good it's very very good) but there's such a turnover of punters in the dance music scene that slack-ass producers seem to get away with putting out a lot of garbage.
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
that's kind of "electro house 2.0", yes i agree. that's the stuff that gets in my way when i'm trying to find good electro albums and it's one of the reasons i hate the guy.
come on though, satisfaction was only a ripoff of flat beat
come on though, satisfaction was only a ripoff of flat beat
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- KVRAF
- 4867 posts since 18 Dec, 2000
Damnit!!!
Bones!!!
I would have loved to find a 303 or a sh202 in 92 for those prices....I was looking!!, but never came across one in a pawn shop. All my buddies from 90-93' were scanning the Dallas pawn shops for all Arp's, Prophet's, and especially older Roland gear.
dw
Bones!!!
I would have loved to find a 303 or a sh202 in 92 for those prices....I was looking!!, but never came across one in a pawn shop. All my buddies from 90-93' were scanning the Dallas pawn shops for all Arp's, Prophet's, and especially older Roland gear.
dw
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- KVRian
- 889 posts since 10 Jul, 2004
aciddose get the branis gui done and trust me ppl will forget all about synth1. sylenth1 or whatever..
having said that
sylenth1 is good synth.(if it had pwm i would have probably bought it)and it uses very little cpu. the oscillators are good and consistent across all keys...and the stereo spread is useful when placing the sound in mix.
u won't be emulating cymbals with its filters ....but they good enough for bread and butter use.
benassi hypnotica was a great album. the guy made a dance album by just using a plain dirty sawtooth as main sound so what? ... its the clones which followed i have a problem with....and also the idiots who came on forums askin how to get the benassi bass who obviously didnt even know what oscillators sound like...yet they were writing and commenting synth qualities in threads like this one.
having said that
sylenth1 is good synth.(if it had pwm i would have probably bought it)and it uses very little cpu. the oscillators are good and consistent across all keys...and the stereo spread is useful when placing the sound in mix.
u won't be emulating cymbals with its filters ....but they good enough for bread and butter use.
benassi hypnotica was a great album. the guy made a dance album by just using a plain dirty sawtooth as main sound so what? ... its the clones which followed i have a problem with....and also the idiots who came on forums askin how to get the benassi bass who obviously didnt even know what oscillators sound like...yet they were writing and commenting synth qualities in threads like this one.
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- KVRAF
- 4867 posts since 18 Dec, 2000
+1
aciddose is one the smartest people I've ever had the privilege to speak/write with.
dw
aciddose is one the smartest people I've ever had the privilege to speak/write with.
dw
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- Banned
- 947 posts since 10 Apr, 2007
Sylenth 2.1 rocks very well over here! 
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- KVRist
- 128 posts since 7 Nov, 2007
I didn't understand what all the fuss was about over Sylenth, so I tried the demo and while I was impressed, I wasn't exactly blown away.
So just now I pulled up the demo again out of boredom and started fiddling with the parameters, just at random, and got this shitty, kind of high passed sawtooth patch. Of course, that sounded like shit, so I went back and fiddled a few knobs here and there and somehow I ended up with an incredibly chunky layered sawtooth/square bass. Entirely by accident.
So I kind of like it. In some cases can sound better than another synth, sometimes doesn't. I managed to squeeze out some sounds that definitely sounded 'better' than some of my Vanguard patches I've made- the Vanguard patches sound kind of tinny or screechy in comparison- but I've managed to get Vanguard patches to sound absolutely huge with no external delays or reverb. I can't seem to achieve that with the Sylenth demo- I doubt the one or two modulation options that are restricted in the demo would help out too much.
So just now I pulled up the demo again out of boredom and started fiddling with the parameters, just at random, and got this shitty, kind of high passed sawtooth patch. Of course, that sounded like shit, so I went back and fiddled a few knobs here and there and somehow I ended up with an incredibly chunky layered sawtooth/square bass. Entirely by accident.
So I kind of like it. In some cases can sound better than another synth, sometimes doesn't. I managed to squeeze out some sounds that definitely sounded 'better' than some of my Vanguard patches I've made- the Vanguard patches sound kind of tinny or screechy in comparison- but I've managed to get Vanguard patches to sound absolutely huge with no external delays or reverb. I can't seem to achieve that with the Sylenth demo- I doubt the one or two modulation options that are restricted in the demo would help out too much.
- KVRAF
- 8644 posts since 2 Oct, 2006 from Leeds, UK
Same here. I'm abing it against Sytrus atm as some of the patches are similar and sytrus can sound nice and aggressive too. Perhaps not quite as punchy as Sylenth but it has a wider sound palette and i prefer it overall. I find the sounds sit well in a mix. Nice basses, keys, 303 type sounds, arps fx and pads. Listen for yaself: http://www.flstudio.com/documents/sytrus.html 
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- KVRAF
- 7795 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
Sytrus isn't for Mac though. I wonder how long it will be until the fxpansion synths come out...
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- KVRAF
- 27005 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Sylenth only has partial Mac support otherwise it would be interesting to try it out after all the discussion...djanthonyw wrote:Sytrus isn't for Mac though. I wonder how long it will be until the fxpansion synths come out...
- KVRAF
- 7795 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
Partial Mac support for non-customers... Lennard was nice enough to give out the beta AU to current customers which is what I think all developers should do. The finished AU should be released anytime now though from what I understand.
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