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Hink · Post by **Hink** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:45 pm

susiwong wrote:
Hink wrote:like I said I doubt I'll build a lap steel, but I am turning the dean acoustic into a slide only guitar. I did decide to yank the frets, the body is black with a single cutaway and adequately scratched up to have character. I figured instead of raising the saddle or the nut pulling out the frets would give me the same clearance I want. As crazy as it sounds what I'll wait on the most is the wood filler in the fret slots and glue on back to dry. By then the bridge pins and strings will be here and it will be a matter of stringing it.

I realize that everything I'm doing to this guitar goes against the grain so to speak but with any luck it will sound bad enough to be perfect for what I want
Ok, with Dean I associated one of these pointy metal axes.
Never saw a Dean Acousic.
Cheers,
susiwong

that's not mine but it's the same thing, I use to sell them so I got it dirt cheap. I also had a Dean Fretless bass for a long time but I sold it.

It is on one of my songs, Plight of a Dreamer, but then one corner of the back just separated, not completely off though and there is no crack. It's just the seam but then I got an Ovation and said "one of these day" about the Dean, this isn't a new idea at all for me.

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:41 am

Ok, I see.
That hole in the middle looks a bit too big for installing a Floyd, though I heard about 3rd party clones that don't stick too closely to the original specs.

Why don't you simply get one of those risers that fit over the original saddle without modification ? Should set you back $10 or so in the US.
http://resonatorguitarguide.com/uncateg ... itar-dobro
Instant acoustic slide guitar ...
Ymmv,
susiwong

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:58 am

susiwong wrote:Ok, I see.
That hole in the middle looks a bit too big for installing a Floyd, though I heard about 3rd party clones that don't stick too closely to the original specs.
Why don't you simply get one of those risers that fit over the original saddle without modification ? Should set you back $10 or so in the US.
http://resonatorguitarguide.com/uncateg ... itar-dobro
Instant acoustic slide guitar ...
Ymmv,
susiwong

we're on two different pages because I'm talking about two different things.

1. was building a lap steel from scratch, that's what I was thinking about putting a rose in.

2. taking my old acoustic and making in slide only guitar, I already ripped out the frets so there's no turning back.

sorry for my confusing posting

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:20 am

Hink wrote:
susiwong wrote:Ok, I see.
That hole in the middle looks a bit too big for installing a Floyd, though I heard about 3rd party clones that don't stick too closely to the original specs.
Why don't you simply get one of those risers that fit over the original saddle without modification ? Should set you back $10 or so in the US.
http://resonatorguitarguide.com/uncateg ... itar-dobro
Instant acoustic slide guitar ...
Ymmv,
susiwong
we're on two different pages because I'm talking about two different things.

1. was building a lap steel from scratch, that's what I was thinking about putting a rose in.

2. taking my old acoustic and making in slide only guitar, I already ripped out the frets so there's no turning back.

sorry for my confusing posting

The 1st part was a joke, actually.

The 2nd however is meant seriously.
Cheers,
susiwong

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:26 am

susiwong wrote:
Hink wrote:
susiwong wrote:Ok, I see.
That hole in the middle looks a bit too big for installing a Floyd, though I heard about 3rd party clones that don't stick too closely to the original specs.
Why don't you simply get one of those risers that fit over the original saddle without modification ? Should set you back $10 or so in the US.
http://resonatorguitarguide.com/uncateg ... itar-dobro
Instant acoustic slide guitar ...
Ymmv,
susiwong
we're on two different pages because I'm talking about two different things.

1. was building a lap steel from scratch, that's what I was thinking about putting a rose in.

2. taking my old acoustic and making in slide only guitar, I already ripped out the frets so there's no turning back.

sorry for my confusing posting
The 1st part was a joke, actually.
The 2nd however is meant seriously.
Cheers,
susiwong

yeah that's a good idea actually, but buy one?

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:37 am

Hink wrote:yeah that's a good idea actually, but buy one?

Well, you can make one from scratch I guess.
We might think a bit different here, to me the result is what matters, so if I can get what I want for cheap I won't think twice.
Do it yourself is mostly an option when what I want doesn't exist or I cannot afford it, you seem to enjoy the building itself more.
Cheers,
susiwong

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:56 am

susiwong wrote:
Hink wrote:yeah that's a good idea actually, but buy one?
Well, you can make one from scratch I guess.
We might think a bit different here, to me the result is what matters, so if I can get what I want for cheap I won't think twice.
Do it yourself is mostly an option when what I want doesn't exist or I cannot afford it, you seem to enjoy the building itself more.
Cheers,
susiwong

my friends use to call me mcguyver in the 80s, my family called it "yankee ingenuity" and I was raised around it. It's not really isn't about enjoyment it's a little about being frugal and a lot about pride in a job well done. But it's not always enjoyment, I would never build another dulcimer, I hate soldering now but if I can make it and need it I always do.

I didn't know my father's father very well, but I have the toy he made me and even the drill he used. It's one of those things you put marbles in the top of and it rolls back and forth to the bottom. (*maybe I should take some pics of it for the photo thread)

My first electric guitar (we one that plugged in) was an acoustic with a speaker taped face down as a mic dad made and dad made me a guitar amp out of an old tube ham radio amp and put an 8" speaker in a crate covered with cardboard on the inside. I guess it's just a family tradition

*edit...done, pic in photo thread

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:58 am

It's all about strengths and weeknesses I guess.

I take some pride in knowing my own limits.
I'll do a guitar setup as good as the next guy but I've never touched a fret file.
I do my own guitar wiring, cabling and stuff but I rarely touch an electronic circuit.
We have a wonderful silent agreement among friends, everybody contributes his special skills to help the others free of charge, doing the best job he can, in the end we all benefit big time and it's a nice experience.
But we're way OT now I fear.

Sorry, sometimes it happens.

Cheers,
susiwong

Nielzie · Post by **Nielzie** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:31 pm

I promise I wi.. ah never mind

I wish I could though..

emdot_ambient · Post by **emdot_ambient** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:28 am

Weller soldeing station
Solder
X-Acto Helping Hands
Fluke DMM
Tektronix oscilloscope
(2) Buchla 292c Lowpass Gate clone PCBs
Vactrols for Buchla
PCB for a TH-301 VCLFO
(2) Power supplies
Case for power supply
Various hardware for completing the power supply
Various IC chips, transistors and op amps
Some honking big brushed aluminum knobs (expensive!)

...you know all the gear needed to start some DIY modular analog synth building...

justin3am · Post by **justin3am** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:49 am

emdot_ambient wrote:Weller soldeing station
Solder
X-Acto Helping Hands
Fluke DMM
Tektronix oscilloscope
(2) Buchla 292c Lowpass Gate clone PCBs
Vactrols for Buchla
PCB for a TH-301 VCLFO
(2) Power supplies
Case for power supply
Various hardware for completing the power supply
Various IC chips, transistors and op amps
Some honking big brushed aluminum knobs (expensive!)

...you know all the gear needed to start some DIY modular analog synth building...

That sounds like the opposite of "not buying any more gear"! Sounds like fun though! I've got similar plans throughout December.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:56 am

It's one day away from a month (cue organ music) "will he stay on course, or break down and get that pro q? Can hibidy ever be saved, and what would that actually mean?......stay tuned......."

emdot_ambient · Post by **emdot_ambient** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:53 am

justin3am wrote:
emdot_ambient wrote:Weller soldeing station
Solder
X-Acto Helping Hands
Fluke DMM
Tektronix oscilloscope
(2) Buchla 292c Lowpass Gate clone PCBs
Vactrols for Buchla
PCB for a TH-301 VCLFO
(2) Power supplies
Case for power supply
Various hardware for completing the power supply
Various IC chips, transistors and op amps
Some honking big brushed aluminum knobs (expensive!)

...you know all the gear needed to start some DIY modular analog synth building...
That sounds like the opposite of "not buying any more gear"! Sounds like fun though! I've got similar plans throughout December.

Exactly my point.

Actually all this started back in like 1990 when I bought 4 PCB kits and put them together only to find out I had no clue how to lay my hands on a decently priced power supply (I wasn't going to try and build one of those) and worse...couldn't figure out how to build a front panel.

Of course I didn't have the internet and companies weren't selling on line and there weren't online help groups and no small enthusiasts producing quality PCBs and no free front panel designers or companies who would engrave aluminum front panels for you relatively cheaply.

This truly is the golden age of modular synths.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:41 am

well my slide guitar special is done, maybe one day I'll snap a picture of it. Like I said a dean acoustic (black) that a section of the back had separated from the body on the seam. I ripped out the frets and filled the grooves with wood filler so they are visible but I have more clearance.

What I didn't do was glue the body, sand the neck after pulling the frets or after filling the grooves, the back has some scratches, scars and half the guitar has 6 years of dust.

It's positively crappy, just the way I wanted it, the wood filler on the neck filled in other scrapes from pulling the frets so from close up it looks terrible. In fact the only thing worse than how it looks is how it sounds, in other words I nailed it...it's just what I wanted.

The last music store I worked at was Daddy's Junky Music, while stringing this my daughter (14) was watching and asked me why I wanted a piece of crap, in explaining it to her I named it Daddy's Junky Blues Guitar.

Total investment into making this the living dead (I really didn't bring it back from the dead) was under 13 dollars including the cost of strings

szdl · Post by **szdl** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:00 pm

emdot_ambient wrote:Weller soldeing station
Solder
X-Acto Helping Hands
Fluke DMM
Tektronix oscilloscope
(2) Buchla 292c Lowpass Gate clone PCBs
Vactrols for Buchla
PCB for a TH-301 VCLFO
(2) Power supplies
Case for power supply
Various hardware for completing the power supply
Various IC chips, transistors and op amps
Some honking big brushed aluminum knobs (expensive!)

...you know all the gear needed to start some DIY modular analog synth building...

SOund familiar. I've been banned from new gear too, so I'm trying to get my hands on some AC128 germanium transisitors to make my own fuzz pedals. They're small enough to hide from my girlfriend too!

The I promise I will not buy more gear-thread