Drumaxx (Percussion Synthesizer) Released!

[sqigls]

Drumaxx vs Microtonic

Thoughts, comments (sound-wise)?

I think they are very complimentary. I've been using MicroTonic since day one and i use it in every track in every project. It's a great (STABLE!!) 'analog' drum synth that is TUNABLE!!!!!!! Hint hint all you drum synth programmers. It's punchy and tight, and i wish there was a hardware version However, for drum sounds where I need a bit more 'wood' or a few extra zippee songee harmonics I generally try elsewhere. I believe that's where Drumaxx could fit in nicely. Except, it has SO many niggles that need ironing - I really don't think that I can add it to the arsenal just yet.

That said, SOUND WISE - I like it. It's real easy for me to get some sounds that i might normally be adding effects on samples to get. I'm yet to get into it really, because things like the lack of intuitive velocity programming and a bad phasing/volume dropout problem strip the value out of it for me, even at $13. Heck, there's a trillion other similar things out there for free or close to it! That said (again), tweeking sounds with it is actually addictive, which makes it all the more of a pain in the ass that all the niggles spoil my time with it.

BLA Bla bla...

[mcnoone]

....I am really thinking $13 might be too much!?...

It has no velocity control !!!???? and patch browsing is a pain in the ass. Also, where's the Drumpad?? I'm tired of all these drum synths that are spoiled by sequencers and shite. I was hoping for a DRUM SYNTH, not a circus of weighed down fruity bells and whistles.

Your joking right?
You must be, because this drum machine imo is above others in certain areas.
First, it does have velocity control. "Not yet" available through your daw's midi control of individual notes, but within each drum preset, it certainly does.
There was a mention made to have single drum note data midi out in a future update.

Second, Patch browsing is great, and extremely easy imo. There's arrows, and pop-up menu's, so what more should there be, that you feel is needed in patch browsing?

Third, The drum pad will be added in an update, "soon" as far as what was said in the post above, which apparently you did not read.

Last...only a fool would criticize something without,
a)knowing the full details of what one is criticizing.
b)Criticizing something without offering a better example of what should be implemented in place of the observered weakness one is criticizing.
ie: Offering constructive criticism.

You failed on both counts so I guess that means...?

[SynisTAr]

I really like what this program can do for creating acoustic sounds. The bass drums and snares are particularly good, though some of the cymbals, by default don't seem to have been programmed at all.

I can imagine people creating hundreds of presets for this and sharing them. Does ImageLine have a site for sharing presets, or is that something we will have to create?

(This probably doesn't need saying here, but adding a very little reverb to the acoustic sets makes them still more realistic. This is a very quick take that just lets two slightly altered patterns play. Nothing fancy, here. Just for hearing the potential for creating acoustic drums. Done in Mulab, using the internal MuVerb set to Small Room with a few adjustments. I don't have the cymbals right, yet. The second pattern is better, here, with more variety:

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p ... cf97875587

Again, this is very basic stuff, just intended to to show the possibilities for creating acoustic sounds.

IL official Drumaxx Preset Forum

[Jake Jackson]

I think it's intended more as a drum machine than a synth.

The velocity controls are good: map a physical modelling parameter to velocity, then set the ratio of velocity to the parameter, then set the velocity for each hit of each instrument using the little sliders beside each hit. Makes drum rolls and more possible.

About the browsing. I hadn't noticed anything bad about it (except with the patterns). But I could see another way of doing things--maybe a browser\list of instruments that stays open, off to the left. That would make swapping bass drums, etc in and out a lot easier as we experiment with each one. That so many instruments that making them easier to reach would be good.

[highkoo]

I tell you what, I'll pay the $13 if you give it ALL to the earthquake victims.

stfu

[V'ger]

Yeah for 13$ this is incredible value with very good sounds, interface and editing possibilities. So nice to be able to pitch drums without them starting to sound horrible. No bite-the-back-of-the-hand gorgeous snares etc, but can any synth make those really?

Only minuses are the pattern selecting and triggering (imagine how cool triggering different patterns with different keys would be..) which has already been covered, so has the somewhat excessive CPU usage. Other than that a bit cumbersome drum loading system (dialog boxes every time.. ) and an install that created folders and files outside my selection and knowledge which usually bugs me quite a lot, but the app and price made up for it.

[dblue]

imagine how cool triggering different patterns with different keys would be..

I'm doing exactly that right now with Drumaxx running in Renoise 2.5. Seems to be working fine? Perhaps I've misunderstood you?

Edit: I realise now that I assumed you meant triggering patterns via MIDI notes, but perhaps you meant via your computer keyboard instead?

[VariKusBrainZ]

oh yeah drumpad is really missing.

We will add Drumpad VSTi again in the next installer hoping it makes up a little for the Logic mess.

For Windows too please !!

[sqigls]

....I am really thinking $13 might be too much!?...

It has no velocity control !!!???? and patch browsing is a pain in the ass. Also, where's the Drumpad?? I'm tired of all these drum synths that are spoiled by sequencers and shite. I was hoping for a DRUM SYNTH, not a circus of weighed down fruity bells and whistles.

Your joking right?
You must be, because this drum machine imo is above others in certain areas.
First, it does have velocity control. "Not yet" available through your daw's midi control of individual notes, but within each drum preset, it certainly does.
There was a mention made to have single drum note data midi out in a future update.

Second, Patch browsing is great, and extremely easy imo. There's arrows, and pop-up menu's, so what more should there be, that you feel is needed in patch browsing?

Third, The drum pad will be added in an update, "soon" as far as what was said in the post above, which apparently you did not read.

Last...only a fool would criticize something without,
a)knowing the full details of what one is criticizing.
b)Criticizing something without offering a better example of what should be implemented in place of the observered weakness one is criticizing.
ie: Offering constructive criticism.

You failed on both counts so I guess that means...?

s I said in my FIRST post (which apparently you didn't read) I don't have time to read all posts in the thread, E-Tard. Look tool, i'm just talking about MY experiences with the fudging plugin. Mr Arenticleverusingthelongwordswithalackofsentencestructure.

Oh and highkoo, you are wanker, get off the internet.

[tetsuneko]

Why you gotta be outta your minds bitching about a 13 € drum synth. When was the last time you invested a similar sum and got a comparable product?

I love my Drumaxxon, it complements my drumsynth collection nicely.
The UI could of course be better, but it's the sound that counts IMO.

Drumaxxon + UAD 1176 = W1N!

[V'ger]

I'm doing exactly that right now with Drumaxx running in Renoise 2.5. Seems to be working fine?

It is? How did U get it to work?

[dblue]

I'm doing exactly that right now with Drumaxx running in Renoise 2.5. Seems to be working fine?

It is? How did U get it to work?

Didn't have to do anything special really. I just hit whichever note is listed as the "trigger key" for that particular pattern, and it just works - the pattern plays for as long as I hold down the note. If a kit has multiple patterns mapped to C-5, C#5, D-5, etc., then it's no problem for me to skip around between those on the fly. Pretty nifty stuff. Sorry to hear it's not working out so well for others

[V'ger]

Hm, what OS are you using? Maybe it's just windows where it doesn't work yet.

[dblue]

Hm, what OS are you using? Maybe it's just windows where it doesn't work yet.

Windows XP Pro SP3.

I can confirm that it works in my licensed copy of Renoise 2.5 - tested with both computer keyboard input and MIDI from my Novation Remote 25SL. I also tested it with the Ableton Live 8.1.1 demo, and also the Reaper 3.31 demo, and it worked normally in both cases. The only weird thing I noticed is that each host seems to have its own idea for how the octaves are setup, so I just had to switch my controller up or down a few octaves to find the right notes.

Edit: My copy of Drumaxx is licensed too, if that makes any difference to this particular issue.

[V'ger]

The only weird thing I noticed is that each host seems to have its own idea for how the octaves are setup, so I just had to switch my controller up or down a few octaves to find the right notes.

Ah yes, now it works! It's actually 2 octaves off where it says. Cheers.